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Old 06-16-2015, 09:50 PM
 
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While the media is focused on CA and how "broke" CA is, true Data shows that CA is actually doing just fine. CA is doing so good, that they're able to give the Govt tons of money to help support the poorer Red States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federa...nding_by_state

http://i.imgur.com/UNsEtyj.png

Most of the Red States are in the Negative.

http://i.imgur.com/cxUpdJS.png

Matter of fact, the Blue States are the one holding it down. If not for the Blue States, how will the Red States survive?

http://i.imgur.com/w3wDeRS.png

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Old 06-16-2015, 09:51 PM
 
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Minor Correction: states dont make money, they take it.
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Old 06-16-2015, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Unemployment rate is 3.4% in that liberal bastion, San Francisco.
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Old 06-16-2015, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Minor Correction: states dont make money, they take it.
This is predicated on how much tax dollars they send and how much they get back.
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Old 06-16-2015, 09:58 PM
 
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Unemployment rate is 3.4% in that liberal bastion, San Francisco.
Unemployment rates only count people LOOKING for Jobs. Unlike the Red States which depend on Welfare and are not worried about looking for jobs.

And yes, Red States TOP THE LIST in Food Stamps percentage wise.
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Old 06-16-2015, 09:58 PM
 
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This is predicated on how much tax dollars they send and how much they get back.
And the title is incorrect
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Old 06-16-2015, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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Just as an FYI, Montana has a balanced budget requirement in its constitution, so the governor can't spend more than what is authorized by the legislature.

The legislature just concluded it's business, and for for the next 2 years there is a projected surplus of $426 million dollars.

A very conservative house and senate tightly regulate spending, keeping a democrat governor's spending very much under control.

Montana does get more back from the fed in taxes than it pays, because Montana is the 4th largest state with thousands of miles of highways, but only around 1,000,000 people in population.

That means there aren't a lot of people to send money to washington, but federal projects including the fact that roughly 1/3 of the state is federal land means there are a lot of federal expenses.

You put forth the argument that only states that pay a lot of taxes due to population or high value ports for shipping that pay a lot in fees are in the black.

Your argument starts with a flawed premise, and only obfuscates facts in pursuit of a hyperbolic ideological
view that is skewed and doesn't reflect facts.

I would say the OP has failed miserably in pursuit of propaganda.
The OP got the first part right, if you tell a lie, tell a big lie, but missed the part where the best lies have some truth mixed in.
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Old 06-16-2015, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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While the media is focused on CA and how "broke" CA is, true Data shows that CA is actually doing just fine. CA is doing so good, that they're able to give the Govt tons of money to help support the poorer Red States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federa...nding_by_state



Most of the Red States are in the Negative.



Matter of fact, the Blue States are the one holding it down. If not for the Blue States, how will the Red States survive?
Considering the latest liberal meme of "deficits don't matter," why even bring this up again?
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Old 06-16-2015, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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While the media is focused on CA and how "broke" CA is, true Data shows that CA is actually doing just fine. CA is doing so good, that they're able to give the Govt tons of money to help support the poorer Red States.

Most of the Red States are in the Negative.



Matter of fact, the Blue States are the one holding it down. If not for the Blue States, how will the Red States survive?
wow...talk about misinformation

mean while the liberal states are running so much debt, not even the federal government could bail them out

cali has nearly 1 trillion in debt
Ny has nearly 700 billion in debt..with NYC itself having over 190 billion in debt

way to go liberals.....spend like drunken sailors

more fascist liberal lies and harassment

such garbage...but what to expect from the fascist liberals


challenge: define 'conservative' or 'red' state
define liberal or blue states

hmm north Carolina, south Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi , Alabama , and lousianna ...all locked by the democrats for 80-120 years, since the 1880's


let's see 'red" state..nc...a DEMOCRAT STRONG HOLD for the last 100 years

let's see.. 'blue' state NY...the only thing blue in the state is NYC

the 'red'("republican") states also have the biggest share of military posts in the county

the 'red' states as you call them are not 'red' at the state and local level

the "red" state also have most of the farming. most of the military posts, and a good portion of the national parks

btw...many of the "red" states (based on POTUS election) are very BLUE in their own states...NC for example has been a democrat controlled state for 100 years..even though it was a 'red' state in 2000/4




the top 15 states in the Nation that consume the MOST in welfare. 13-of-15 are DEMOCRAT states; they went Blue in 2008.

The BIGGEST US WELFARE STATES

–Year Researched Data———2009————-2007————2008———-2009

State——-% of Pop on Welfare—–Spending on Welfare—-Total on Welfare—–Unemp

#1. California……………3.30%………………$3 .28 BILLION………..1,212,893…….11.5%

#2. Maine………………..2.37%……………….$ 61.73 MILLION………..31,148……….8.3%

#3. Tennessee………….2.15%……………..$91.28 MILLION……….133,505……….10.7%

#4. Massachusetts…….2.09%…………….$295.29 MILLION………136,033………8.2%

#5. Vermont…………….2.02%……………..$30.9 2 MILLION………..12,543……..7.3%

#6. Wash DC…………..1.99%……………….$18.67 MILLION………..11,806………..10.7%

#7. New York…………..1.92%………………$1.47 BILLION…………..373,305………8.2%

#8. Minnesota…………..1.88%………………$106 .29 MILLION………98,028…….8.2%

#9. Washington…………1.86%………………$265. 88 MILLION……121,864……..9.4%

#10. New Mexico……….1.83%………………$58.87 MILLION…….36,322…………..6.5%

#11. Indiana……………..1.83%………………..$ 102.27 MILLION…..116,430……….10.6%

#12. Rhode Island……..1.79%……………….$57.4 MILLION…………..18,839…………..12.1%

#13. Michigan…………..1.60%………………..$38 0.93 MILLION……….164,589………14.1%

#14.Pennsylvania……….1.60%………………$ 247.29 MILLION………198,666…………8.2%

#15. Oregon…………….1.55%………………….$ 83.85 MILLION……….58,831………….12.4%


No matter what you think, the fact that 13 of the 15 states mentioned above who TAKE the most money for WELFARE are BLUE states!!!!


some of the biggest welfare states....new york and california and mississippi...all very much liberal states....and missi also has the highest black population in the country




new york SPENDS more per capita on WELFARE than almost anyother state, 'blue' states like NY have more welfare recipients than 10 of those 'red' states combined..they are number 8

top 7 states per capita of welfare

1. DISTRICT OF COLOMBIA (wash DC)
2. GUAM
3. Rhode Island
4. Tenn
5. california
6. Maine
7. alaska
8. new york

highest dropout rates....nevada and illinois...very blue

texas also PRODUCES 40% of the ENERGY that California USES...yet

cali is the second biggest carbon emiter.....behind...texas







btw I am a new yorker (a northerner)


the problem is the democrats and their love for welfare and other social programs...the more they push these programs the more the wealthier states will pay for the poorer states. the more they push the "tax the rich" mantra, the more the rich will be paying for the poor.......NJ has more people that are considered wealthy, than it has people below the poverty line...a state like SC has more workingclass and poor than it has wealthy.....its simple math....and there is a simple solution,,, vote out the tax and spend liberals
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Old 06-16-2015, 10:33 PM
 
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I thnk the leaders of the blue states should put their foot down once and for all and evict all these evil Red states from the union untl they clean up their act, divorce them from federal restraint and maker them stand on their own,. That seems to be the only result that will make the OP of this thread and others like it happy.
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