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Old 06-20-2015, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Japan
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So because a Christian media says...
A Christian media?

That's the Christian Science Monitor. Google it.
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Old 06-20-2015, 07:42 AM
 
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Nice spin, I clicked on one of the links and they are quoting the shooter, just like the are quoting this shooter. I guess quoting someone means endorsing their views

I think a major difference is, despite the fact that the Hartford massacre was also clearly race motivated, they spend time trying to see if his racism is justified based on the way he perceived treatment at the hands of the white guys.

Also: The Hartford case did not elicit response from the President, nor days and days of front page coverage.



I think it will be interesting if the media spends as much time examining the background behind the Charleston shooter's maniacal claims as they did the Hartford shooter's, or if we can all just be satisfied and content to just call him someone hate filled and motivated by racism.
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Old 06-20-2015, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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If a black man goes into a white church and kills 9 white people, it will be on the news.

Any mass shooting of this nature would be on the national news and be a huge story because it feeds the fuel of the populace. This one just so happens to be a racially motivated crime. There was one in Wisconsin not too long ago where some sheiks were killed by a crazy white gunman too and it was religious oriented, he probably thought they were Muslims.

The white on white mass shooters are spoken of on the national news too when many people are killed at once.

The one in CO, the movie theater shooting, involved a very diverse group of victims and it was national news.

Mass murder is national news no matter the race.
Yes, it will be on the news. But the races of the criminal and the victims will be ignored. And if the term "hate crime" is actually uttered it will be in regards to how this "wasn't a hate crime, it's just one mentally ill individual".
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Old 06-20-2015, 11:14 AM
 
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Obvious troll is obvious.
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Old 06-20-2015, 02:38 PM
 
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US Mass Shootings, 1982-2012: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation | Mother Jones

11 out of 70.

15.7% means that blacks are overrepresented slightly. It's probably just noise, though.
The article doesn't mention the race of the perpetuators. Where are you getting your numbers from?

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Am I reading the bold above correctly? Very few black criminals?? Why are the prisons full of black people?
There are very few black criminals. There are few criminals in general in our country.

Please note that our prison population is about 2.25 million. About 1 million are black. There are 40 million black people in the country. Many of them have been in prison for multiple years and the prison population has remained pretty stable over the past Decade.

less than 1% of black Americans are even arrested for anything in a given year. You and those like you only associate us with crime because of the media's influence and our country's adherence to the ideology that blacks are inferior and criminally minded when truthfully very few of us are criminals at all.
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Old 06-20-2015, 03:00 PM
 
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Ratings.

What gets more attention?

They are in the ratings business. They don't get paid to put out content that doesn't drive people to watch their programs.
Is this really true though? Did that many people really want to hear endlessly about Ferguson? About Trayvon Martin? About what that one basketball coach said to his girlfriend? About Bruce Jenner, ferchrissakes? I don't know. And news organizations of many forms are going down the tubes these days. Deservedly so, if you ask me.
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Old 06-20-2015, 03:08 PM
 
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Personal attacks aside...

The perceptions expressed on this thread are contrary to all the evidence.

"By over-representing whites as victims of crimes perpetrated by people of color, crime news delivers a double blow to white audiences' potential for empathetic understanding of racial minorities,"

"Race and Punishment: Racial Perceptions of Crime and Support for Punitive Policies." Nazgol Ghandnoosh

http://www.sentencingproject.org/doc...Punishment.pdf (page 22)

"In contrast, whites are overrepresented as victims of violence and as
law-enforcers, while blacks are underrepresented in these sympathetic
roles."

"Several studies show that black victims are less likely to be covered than
white victims in newspaper coverage of crime."

"Race to Jusgement: Stereotyping Media and Criminal Defendants." Robert Entman/Kimberly Gross

http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/...95&context=lcp

"This trend shows no signs of changing. Studies over the past decade by media effects scholar Travis L. Dixon, an associate professor of communications studies at the University of California, Los Angeles, found that minorities are underrepresented as crime victims in the news while whites are overrepresented."

"White Crime Victims Favored In Mainstream Media Reports"

White Crime Victims Favored In Mainstream Media Reports | The Maynard Institute for Journalism Education


"White victims of homicide will be overrepresented in newspaper articles compared with other female victims of color and in contrast to yearly statistics on homicide for the same groups in FBI Uniform Crime Reports (UCR); H0 2: Articles featuring white female victims of homicides will yield a greater frequency of story framing indicators compared with Black or Hispanic-non-White female homicide victims and that this difference will be statistically significant across racial groups"

ProQuest Document View - News reflects views: An analysis of media and the perpetuation of the invisibility of black women as victims of homicide in three major city newspapers
None of this addresses what people here are saying. Yes, black victims of violent crime are underrepresented in the media. Some black kid gets shot on the streets of Detroit and the people at the New York Times, NPR, CNN, Fox News, etc., etc., etc. don't give a goddamn. If some white person gets killed by a black stickup kid they likewise don't care. But if there's a black victim they can portray as a victim of a white racist, they're all over it. None of these studies refute that.
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Old 06-20-2015, 03:20 PM
 
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BTW, I'll bet not one of you white foutraged liberals would want to live next door to me or have my son date your daughter. I'm black. You just like to spew your foutrage from Mom's basement.
I've long wondered if black people believe in white liberals' professed love for them, which in most cases is so obviously phony. I'd bet that most black folks don't really care much about it, though.
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Old 06-20-2015, 03:34 PM
 
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Remember when that black kook, just ten years ago on C-SPAN, called for the extermination of white people on national TV?

Funny how FOX News, the one station which lefties declare "racist," picked that story up but no other media outlet or nightly news report did.
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Old 06-20-2015, 04:14 PM
 
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White guy commits crime against blacks for racist reasons, it's wall to wall coverage on the evening news. Black guy commits crime against whites for racist reasons, story either stays local (no national coverage) or quickly disappears on national news.
It is not only race, it is any liberal notion and has been for a long time. That is why FOX News is so disturbing to the liberals because they are so use to having a liberal slant, that anything more balanced seems like right wing extremism to them.

The answer of course is simple, most people in the media (both print and TV media) are liberals. Therefore their perspective and bias will come through.
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