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Old 03-25-2019, 04:37 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Let me explain in this checklist. He says...

1) He wasn't raised in a racist home.
2) He noticed people making racist jokes, but didn't think much of it at the time.
3) He felt that blacks were more racist than whites.
4) He thought Zimmerman was in the right, and he didn't understand why blacks were so quick to defend Trayvon.
5) He realized that the vast majority of interracial crime was committed by blacks. But that fact is often ignored.
6) He saw that the same things happening here, were also happening in Europe.
7) He believes blacks are on average less intelligent, and are more prone to violence.
8) Black people view everything through a "racial filter". They are more "racially aware" and more easily offended.
9) Blacks are always held to a lower standard than whites(Bill Maher calls this this soft bigotry of low-expectations).
10) Blacks can behave obnoxiously in public, because no one expects better of them.
11) The vast majority of white people never owned slaves, but all of us are now being punished for it.
12) That there were very few stories where black slaves were treated badly. Most were treated well(IE Uncle-Toms).
13) That segregation was actually good, and was about protecting both blacks and whites from each other.
14) That segregation protected white culture from being polluted by black culture. Whites now want to "act black".
15) That the end of segregation hurts poor white kids the most, because all the whites with money moved to the suburbs.
16) That the best approximation for "good schools" are by how "white" they are.
17) That poor white kids going to 90% black schools are often treated very poorly.
18) That the Northwest front(IE White-Nationalism) is nothing but white people running away, just like they always do.
19) That it is silly that even in 80% black South Africa, they have to have affirmative-action for blacks.
20) That it doesn't make sense for humans to differ so much on the outside, but that their brains would be exactly the same.
21) That it is difficult to do studies on racial differences, because you won't get funding, and will likely lose your job.
22) That the contributions made by blacks are often exaggerated, to make black people feel better(Black History month?).
23) That white people's obsession with foreign cultures is misguided, and founded on the false belief that whites have no culture.
24) That Jews are obsessed with their Jewish identity, and tend to "network" mostly with other Jews.
25) That there are good and bad Hispanics.
26) That East Asians are very racist, and can be great allies to whites.
27) That American patriotism borderlines on insanity. He doesn't understand what people have to be proud of.
28) That the American military isn't fighting for freedom, or the American way-of-life. But actually for Jewish bankers.
29) That since Vietnam, America is nothing to be proud of, and is not worth fighting for.
30) That a large number of people seem to know all of this to be true, but that no one is doing anything about it.
When did Dylan Rooff say any of this? And you say you believe it too? abd 26-30 have problems, if you do, with 24, and 26-30.

While you're at it see A Second Parkland Survivor Commits Suicide.
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Old 03-26-2019, 02:25 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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When did Dylan Rooff say any of this? And you say you believe it too? abd 26-30 have problems, if you do, with 24, and 26-30.
He wrote it in his manifesto.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...manifesto.html

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While you're at it see
I know most people don't want to hear it, but it isn't only loners and the mentally ill who think like Dylann Roof, or Brent Tarrant(New Zealand Shooter). Most conservatives probably agree with nearly every word in the New Zealand shooter's manifesto.

While it definitely takes someone who is lonely, depressed, and angry to want to kill people; I think it might do people some good to understand why so many people are so angry.

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Old 08-15-2019, 07:36 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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See Tragedy, Possible Mass Shooting Avoided in Tuckahoe by Minding Others' Business.

I cannot over-repeat myself with regard to gun violence; Charleston Demonstrates: You ARE Your Brother's Keeper; Mental Health, Not Guns, Root of Problem. While this involved a relationship gone bad rather than a crazed psychotic, a Plastic surgeon (was) arrested in Tuckahoe with large cache of weapons, threatens to kill estranged wife: DA. Basically, the assailant-in-waiting was at a Tuckahoe (suburban NYC) bar, boasting of the intended carnage. Now, he's held in a Westchester County jail, without bail. There will be no headlines about a bloodbath.

Remember, You ARE Your Brother's Keeper.
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Old 05-12-2020, 07:10 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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I posted this as new topic (related to one of Charleston threads, link) to focus discussion on what I see as real causes of Sandy Hook, Charleston and most similar mass slayings.

I came to be conscious of this issue with McGovern's cashiering of Eagleton as a candidate in the 1972 campaign. This sorry episode is part of what started my path away from believing that liberals are necessarily good people. I had thought they really believed in love, help and compassion before that. I was 15 at time, and had bought into the "peace, love and helping hand" myth the liberals and Democrats presented themselves as adhering to. I believed strongly then, and still do believe, that people are capable of making something of themselves after facing obstacles. To have unceremoniously tossed such a person off the ticket showed a total lack of spine and leadership we see all too often.
In recent years there have been other mass shootings. Jared Lochner, James Holmes, Elliot Rodger (Santa Barbara) and Adam Lanza (Sandy Hook) come to mind. All of these people were obviously troubled. All of these people, except maybe Adam Lanza, were in regular contact with other students, teachers and administrators at their respective schools. Dylan Roof was in regular contact with friends, roommates and his parents. The societal problem is that it is easier to ignore people who are not sociable and not pleasant to be with than to engage them.

With this horrific church massacre, we are treated to lectures about gun control and about racism. People forget that both in this episode and Sandy Hook parents without any apparent mental health pathologies were the ones that obtained the weapons, not the mentally ill adult-aged children. Guns are everywhere so efforts to control legally purchased guns are doomed to futility. The most those laws will do is prevent people who would hurt no one from owning a gun.
Quoted here: Two 16 year old McDonald's employees shot by woman who couldn't dine in in response to:
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It's an odd mindset - that one man can be so powerful that people don't have any control over their own behavior. How about instead examining the state of our mental health and health care system?

It seems evident that this was a poorly adjusted person who had probably been sending off signals for quite some time that she was losing her rationality. Either the people in her life weren't able to recognize it, weren't inclined to do anything about it or there wasn't help available.

This situation didn't just begin to occur. Mentally ill people have been losing it right in front of us since the dawn of time. Most of us either don't want anything to do with it or don't have a clue what to do. If you do see a problem approaching and know what needs to be done good luck getting help with it.
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Old 12-04-2021, 03:02 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Rinse, wash repeat. Multiple injuries reported after Michigan high school shooting; suspect in custody. Except this time with an obviously troubled fifteen year old. I'm sorry, students that age should have sufficient maturity to have at least some idea of their classmates' mental health. No excuse that no one noticed.
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Old 10-30-2022, 04:16 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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"Round and around and around it goes, where the world's heading nobody knows." From Temptations' song "Ball of Confusion", 1970. Paul Pelosi, House Speaker Nanci Pelosi attacked. The question these and other stories raise, see Pelosi attacker David DePape's ex says he is 'mentally ill,' once came home thinking he was Jesus: report, is what did people who know him do? Excerpt from linked article:
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Oxane Taub, the purported former life partner of David DePape — the man who allegedly attacked Paul Pelosi inside his California home — says DePape has "been mentally ill for a long time."
Where were their peers? Oxane Taub is jailed but she seems to have her senses. Why didn't she do anything?
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