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Old 06-24-2015, 07:51 PM
 
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Cruz co-authored an op-ed with Paul Ryan in the Wall Street Journal a month ago promoting Trade Promotion Authority. It was totally gutless to flip on this,for no other reason than pandering. Besides,TPA is not a trade deal. It's simply a part of a process. He knows that quite well and played politics.
Cruz counts on his supporters, A, not having the intelligence required to read for comprehension a pubication like The Wall Street Journal; B, not having the mental acuity it requires to remember that Cruz was for it before he was against it, in this case a mere month ago; or C, not caring one way or another what Cruz is for or against, because he is a Tea Party candidate and they will vote for him on that basis alone.

And he is probably right on all counts.
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Old 06-24-2015, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Does anyone in their right mind think that Obama is for free trade? Does anyone trust Obama. He is a pathological liar. Still congress has given him power to negotiate a trade deal that will encompass immigration and other issues. It will pass as every other trade bill negotiated this way has passed. The establishment knows no party lines. Whatever big corporations want gets done.
Cruz was in favor of an agreement that would not have included the president making deals on immigration. Immigration law is clearly a function of the legislative branch. Some details of the trade bill made public since Cruz supported the bill have changed. Immigration changes to be made by the president were among them. Cruz wanted an amendment that would not allow the president to make immigration law. The RINOs would not allow it.
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Old 06-24-2015, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Congress gave up their right to ratify TPP and it's spinoffs.
Obama has been working on this for 6 years along with big business.

The parts of TPP and it's spinoffs that have been put on wiki leaks should scare the pants off any American because America is going to become a global land of opportunity for anyone living anywhere in the world.

This is going down just like NAFTA if any of you here are old enough to remember.

This bill isn't going to differentiate between Dems or Repubs.

Hillary has kept silent on this. She's a globalist as is Bill. Think of the power that will be handed to her in 2016.

I'm old enough to remember what it was like before NAFTA. The result is Both Canada and Mexico are our largest trading partners both larger than our trade with China. Mexico now has an economy with a GDP per capita about half that of Mississippi and 1/3 of Mexican states are richer than Mississippi. NAFTA opened the door to WalMart, Best Buy and Home Depot. Whereas the US retail market is saturated with little growth potential Mexico has 100 million people wanting to shop at WalMart and buy the big ticket stuff. Its WalMart's biggest growth area and with out the hassles of trying to do business in China, Japan or the EU. Mexicans like McDonald's too. NAFTA has put over a Trillion dollars into the hands of our top 10% so it has really paid off for those Americans who call the shots and make policy here. If you want to get in on a job market for high school graduates learn Spanish and go to a place like Mexico City.
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Old 06-25-2015, 01:22 AM
 
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Default Here's what obama & Co. have just done to us

Morris: Obama Sneaking in 'Unrestricted Immigration' in TPA Trade Deal - Breitbart


Monday on Newmax TV’s “America’s Forum,” political commentator Dick Morris said the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPA) fast track being supported by many Republicans has a provision that allows for the “free flow of workers” between countries, essentially creating a backdoor to “unrestricted immigration.”
Morris said, “This is huge. I hope everybody listening takes action call your senator about it. If he is a Republican he is voting wrong. “I dont think that people understand that in this deal which is a trade agreement among Australia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Japan, Canada, the United States, Mexico, Peru, and Chile, there’s a provision for free flow of workers, just like in the European Union. What It means is unrestricted immigration. It means literally that congress would not have the authority to restrict immigration because a treaty supersedes a statute under our constitution.

I guess they just couldn't pass up that cash "bonus" for voting aye. How much did your senator make for selling you down the river?


Here

A decade in the making, the controversial Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is reaching its climax and as Congress hotly debates the biggest trade deal in a generation, its backers have turned on the cash spigot in the hopes of getting it passed.

And, here we go.

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http://universalfreepress.com/kiss-o...to-impose-tpa/

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Old 06-25-2015, 03:42 AM
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It's kinda like a fundamental transformation, ain't it?
Progressives get the change they wanted.

It's good that leftists are already acclimated to communal living, debt, and shortages.
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Old 06-25-2015, 03:43 AM
 
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A false flag of the correct magnitude, at the right time, and it sales through on the time limit. All you can say is how did that happen.

Pick a card any card. Sorry you lose.
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Old 06-25-2015, 03:59 AM
 
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Old 06-25-2015, 04:13 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Morris: Obama Sneaking in 'Unrestricted Immigration' in TPA Trade Deal - Breitbart


Monday on Newmax TV’s “America’s Forum,” political commentator Dick Morris said the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPA) fast track being supported by many Republicans has a provision that allows for the “free flow of workers” between countries, essentially creating a backdoor to “unrestricted immigration.”
Morris said, “This is huge. I hope everybody listening takes action call your senator about it. If he is a Republican he is voting wrong. “I dont think that people understand that in this deal which is a trade agreement among Australia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Japan, Canada, the United States, Mexico, Peru, and Chile, there’s a provision for free flow of workers, just like in the European Union. What It means is unrestricted immigration. It means literally that congress would not have the authority to restrict immigration because a treaty supersedes a statute under our constitution.

I guess they just couldn't pass up that cash "bonus" for voting aye. How much did your senator make for selling you down the river?


Here

A decade in the making, the controversial Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is reaching its climax and as Congress hotly debates the biggest trade deal in a generation, its backers have turned on the cash spigot in the hopes of getting it passed.

And, here we go.

Idaho: Get ready for Somali refugees as county approves huge meatpacking plant near B


Kiss Off, America - Tyrants Boehner, Ryan Use Obamacare-Style Trickery To Impose TPA ⋆ UFP NEWS
Can you quote the provision referenced for the free flow of immigration
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Old 06-25-2015, 04:18 AM
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Can you quote the provision referenced for the free flow of immigration
TiSA:
What's Really Going on With the Trade in Services Agreement | The New Republic

Services, i.e., labor.
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Old 06-25-2015, 04:23 AM
 
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It's kinda like a fundamental transformation, ain't it?
Yes, he will be able to leave office successful, thanks to our greedy senators. Once the illegals are here, they will never have to leave. Obama will have brought them over "for jobs." I think he was giving us a little hint when he was just talking about diversifying the neighborhoods. I bet he and Michelle are doing a victory dance right now. They stuck it to America.

Hundreds of Muslim refugees headed to Idaho

This is why this deal was so "secret", and telling people that they won't know whats in it, unless it passes (?) and some idiots voted for it going on obamas word that there was nothing about immigration in it. Stupid. These are grownups who you would think would be pretty book smart, and they don't read something before they sign it? I admire Ted Cruz so much. Obama told him that, and he took the time to read it, and said "No way, you lied to me!" They all know if Obamas mouth is moving, he's lying.

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