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Old 06-23-2015, 04:15 PM
 
Location: CO
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Conspiracy theories.....
Spies, intrigue, commies, oh my!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-23-2015, 04:15 PM
 
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Conspiracy theories.....
First, a definition from the Merriam Websters dictionary:

Conspiracy - noun con·spir·a·cy \kən-ˈspir-ə-sē\ : a secret plan made by two or more people to do something that is harmful or illegal

How often do you believe that humans work together towards an end that they do not want others to know about, that is illegal or arguably harmful to someone in some way? Is it:
A. Constantly and in large numbers (More than a thousand groups of people conspiring at any one time)
B. Frequently, but in not very large numbers (Less than a thousand groups of people conspiring at any one time)
C. Occasionally, with significant gaps of time existing when there are NO conspiracies occurring anywhere on the planet Earth.
D. Never
{Hint: The Answer is A. People do this all this time}
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Old 06-23-2015, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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First, a definition from the Merriam Websters dictionary:

Conspiracy - noun con·spir·a·cy \kən-ˈspir-ə-sē\ : a secret plan made by two or more people to do something that is harmful or illegal

How often do you believe that humans work together towards an end that they do not want others to know about, that is illegal or arguably harmful to someone in some way? Is it:
A. Constantly and in large numbers (More than a thousand groups of people conspiring at any one time)
B. Frequently, but in not very large numbers (Less than a thousand groups of people conspiring at any one time)
C. Occasionally, with significant gaps of time existing when there are NO conspiracies occurring anywhere on the planet Earth.
D. Never
{Hint: The Answer is A. People do this all this time}
Yep, the Communists are coming to take away your children and guns, oh my! Who knew it was 1982 again.
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Old 06-23-2015, 04:19 PM
 
Location: CO
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Yep, the Communists are coming to take away your children and guns, oh my! Who knew it was 1982 again.
Children too??!?!?!?

Gonna order out.....
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Old 06-23-2015, 04:20 PM
 
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Yep, the Communists are coming to take away your children and guns, oh my! Who knew it was 1982 again.
You do realize that spies are by definition constantly engaged in conspiracies. And I hope you are also aware that Russia is an enemy of this country, they do have an extensive spy network, and we have been a target of their spying continuously for quite a few decades now.

I hope you understand these truths, as most people do. However, if you somehow don't, that's OK I guess.
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Old 06-23-2015, 04:29 PM
 
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IMHO I think it's Jarrett who's been leading the country for 6.5 years.
Well if she were a communist (see small c) and she had been runing the country Wall St wouldn't have been bailed out it would have been nationalized. Instead of the Affordable Care Act, we have the National Health Service. Instead of massive unemployment we would have a huge labor intensive jobs program.

I guess they just don't make Marxist like they used to.
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Old 06-23-2015, 04:36 PM
 
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well if she were a communist (see small c) and she had been runing the country wall st wouldn't have been bailed out it would have been nationalized. Instead of the affordable care act, we have the national health service. Instead of massive unemployment we would have a huge labor intensive jobs program.

I guess they just don't make marxist like they used to.
roflmao ^^^
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Old 06-23-2015, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Inland Empire, Calif
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Yep, the Communists are coming to take away your children and guns, oh my! Who knew it was 1982 again.
...and they are succeeding because of ignorant voters, don't you feel guilt for helping comrade obama destroy America??
No. I suppose not, obama's supporters are cheering on the destruction of America, either out of ignorance, or they too, support communism...
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Old 06-23-2015, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well if she were a communist (see small c) and she had been runing the country Wall St wouldn't have been bailed out it would have been nationalized. Instead of the Affordable Care Act, we have the National Health Service. Instead of massive unemployment we would have a huge labor intensive jobs program.

I guess they just don't make Marxist like they used to.
I don't think she's a communist.
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Well if she were a communist (see small c) and she had been runing the country Wall St wouldn't have been bailed out it would have been nationalized. Instead of the Affordable Care Act, we have the National Health Service. Instead of massive unemployment we would have a huge labor intensive jobs program.

I guess they just don't make Marxist like they used to.
well that depends...there are different levels that all COULD LEAD to communism

the don't need to nationalize (socialism)..they can leave it as corporatism (ie fascism)(ie socialism lite), which is what they have been pushing since the time of FDR

fascism/socialism/naziism/communism/liberalism.....all about big government...all about loss of individual freedoms



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""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."" Mussolini
hmmm taxation and regulation......the liberals two favorite subjects

Mussolini was a leading socialist figure who, during World War I, turned away from internationalism in favor of Italian nationalism and called the blend Fascism.

A statist ideology, fascism uses politics as the tool to transform society from atomized individuals into an organic whole. It does so by exalting the state over the individual, expert knowledge over democracy, enforced consensus over debate, and socialism over capitalism.


In America...
Woodrow Wilson's Progressivism featured a "militaristic, fanatically nationalist, imperialist, racist" program, enabled by the exigencies of World War I.

Franklin D. Roosevelt's "fascist New Deal" built on and extended Wilson's government.


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FDR gave a speech in Troy, NY, 3 March 1912, in which he laid out his philosophy - he(FDR) placed the "liberty of the community" over "the liberty of the individual."
FDR was a fascist

Lyndon B. Johnson's Great Society established the modern welfare state, "the ultimate fruition" (so far) of this statist tradition.

The youthful New Left revolutionaries of the 1960s brought about "an Americanized updating" of the European Old Right.



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"If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees." bill clinton
Hillary Clinton hopes "to insert the state deep into family life," an essential step of the totalitarian project.

you do realize that socialism, social democracy, communism, nazisism, fascism, ad American liberalism are all part of the same family.

The Social Democrats, USA is the same Socialist Party of America as is has been since August 1, 1901, an is LEFT WING. Social Democratic Party was originally founded June 11, 1898 as a direct political offshoot of the communalist Social Democracy of America (Labor Day Message of 1897 by Eugene Victor Debs). After a merger with the Socialist Party of America (1901) the party remained essentially the same although the named varied a few times. From 1900 (before its formal union) to 1912, the Socialist Party ran Eugene Debs for President at each election. The best showing ever for a Socialist ticket was in 1912, when Debs gained 901,551 total votes, or 6% of the popular vote. we are the party of Eugene Debs, Mother Jones, Helen Keller, Carl Sandburg, Norman Thomas, A. Philip Randolph, Bayard Rustin.

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"A Marxist/Fascist/Liberal begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of socialism, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." Saul Alinsky
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We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler
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"The aim of socialism is not only to abolish the present division of mankind into smaller states and all-national isolation, not only to bring the nations closer to each other, but also to merge them." lennin ..
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read "The Grand Chessboard" by Brzezinski:
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"In order to bring about a North American Union (NAU), the public first has to be conditioned to think of themselves as North Americans. ... "Zbigniew Brzezinski has been a CSIS counselor, and at Mikhail Gorbachev's first State of the World Forum in 1995, Brzezinski revealed:


"We cannot leap into world government through one quick step.... The precondition for eventual and genuine globalization is progressive regionalization because by that we move toward larger, more stable, more cooperative units."


"...in Brzezinski's BETWEEN TWO AGES (1970), he praised Marxism, and he claimed that "the nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty." One aspect of American sovereignty that is being yielded is ownership of American companies by Americans. In the first 9 months of 2007, 69 companies in New England alone have been sold to foreign buyers. Nationally, the French company Alcatel bought Lucent Technologies in the U.S. in2006, and in September 2007 announced it will be cutting thousands of jobs. ..."

"This is a form of Socialism known as fascism, and it will be the type of world government the power elite plans ultimately to bring about and control. In this government, the power elite will control politicians who will become government leaders who will promulgate laws, rules and regulations favorable to certain transnational corporations"



"Modern day globalization was launched with the creation of the Trilateral Commission in 1973 by David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski. Its membership consisted of just over 300 powerful elitists from north America, Europe and Japan. The clearly stated goal of the Trilateral Commission was to foster a 'New International Economic Order' that would supplant the historical economic order.


iit hasn't changed...its just more subtle
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