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Old 06-25-2015, 10:01 AM
 
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I just might. I can't stand the idea of having people like you as neighbors.
Be sure to leave the key under the mat.

Plenty of people willing to take your place and live in a country where we take care of each other.
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:09 AM
 
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What are you going to fix? ACA was written by the insurance companies for the benefit of insurance companies. Hell, our politicians wouldn't even include a public option to compete against the insurers.
To top it off, this law was pushed by the party that claims it is for the people. Really? Because the law couldn't be any friendlier to the insurers if they tried.
Big companies have won yet again and the sheeple are too stupid to realize it. The dog and pony show on camera will start with Obama claiming hiw great it is, Boehner claiming how bad it is. Off camera they'll laugh and count the donation money the insurers gave them the past elections.
The sheeple will be stuck with their overpriced high deductible plans thinking they got a bargain.
Pathetic
This was Hillary's plan.

She should get the credit.
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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Once again good news for America is bad news for the GOP.
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Hmm, with Obamacare, I can no longer get a plan that has an out of pocket maximum for out of network providers. Every single ACA compliant plan in my state offers no cap on out of pocket for out of network. This wouldn't be a big deal except sometimes, you need to go out of network. For my daughter's extremely rare tumor in her head for which she's averaged two surgeries a year, we go out of network because there's about five doctors total in the country with experience on her type of tumor. So, instead of capping my costs at around $15K per year, now it's averaging a luxury car per year. That's fine because I can afford to pay but I know there are plenty of people who could not afford to pay this much money. So no, I don't think Obamacare does insure against medical bankruptcy.

Or I guess I could let some novice operate on my daughter's head would be the answer? I would prefer not to do so and I doubt any parent would either.
BBM~

Okay I have a question. Who actually sets p these networks? I am assuming you are referring to networks of physician's and specialists..right? Is there a separate private Insurance policy that you could purchase that would cover such things ( out of pocket costs) you describe surrounding your daughter's issues?

ACA does not require Physicians to opt into accepting ACA. So the Doctor's your daughter requires have opted out of it.. SO It's the Physicians that are forcing you to pay out of pocket, and not ACA's fault then. It's the individual's Doctor who rejects accepting ACA Insurance.

If the above is accurate..Maybe the ACA's Law can be tweaked to actually encourage those opting out physician's to actually be part of the network.

You are one of those lucky ones who can afford HC Insurance. You never needed any assistance ( subsidies) to obtain HC Insurance to begin with..so this decision today doesn't affect you one way or the other. But since you happen to live in a STATE that does NOT have State Exchange..means there's a boatload of folks there who are able to afford HC Insurance on the Federal Exchanges. If vote had gone the other way.. Those folks would be once again behind the 8 ball..and end up using ER's for there basic HC on the Taxpayer dollar like before. I'm sure those people are breathing a sigh of relief right now

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Old 06-25-2015, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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John Roberts and Anthony Kennedy have now helped to bail out Obamacare not once, but twice.

The Republican-controlled Congress just gave the President a big victory on trade while the Democrats sat there and sulked. That comes after basically doing nothing to stop anything else he does.

Therefore, could the insane Liberals please stop blathering about the mean, old, racist Right trying to do in the nice black President?

The GOP is the President's best friend.
Well part of that is how Roberts looks at the lawsuit. The intent was for the subsidies which is what non-conservatives thought all along rather than the strict nature of the law.
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:15 AM
 
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That's what I don't get. People are acting as if they are getting a freebie but with the deductible so high, if they need a subsidy to pay the premiums how can they afford such a high deductible? I believe there is a cap but even with that, it still holds. Unless they are taking advantage of an HSA a lot of people are still going to have problems meeting the deductible.
Yes, but it is a lot easier to come up with 5k than 500K. Plus, you can get treated now and pay the deductible later or make payments instead of being refused treatment since you have no insurance and cannot afford to pay the full cost upfront.
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Yes, but it is a lot easier to come up with 5k than 500K. Plus, you can get treated now and pay the deductible later or make payments instead of being refused treatment since you have no insurance and cannot afford to pay the full cost upfront.
Exactly, I face the former due to emergency gallbladder surgery back in February. Had the latter happened, I would have likely had to pay for more as a gallstone could have gone into my bile duct. Oh and I might have gotten MRSA as that was in the middle of the MRSA outbreak from the snakes they use to remove gallstones from the bile duct.
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:20 AM
 
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Yes, but it is a lot easier to come up with 5k than 500K. Plus, you can get treated now and pay the deductible later or make payments instead of being refused treatment since you have no insurance and cannot afford to pay the full cost upfront.
And you can get preventative care, much of which is free, which means you can stay healthier and thus avoid many conditions and illnesses down the road which could be very costly, both financially and quality of life-wise.
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:21 AM
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Republicans are secretly wiping their brows on this. They can move on with their constituents and say well we gave it the old college try, but mostly they don't have the burden of trying to come up with something new that is different, because this is in reality their bill from over twenty years ago.
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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Today I am freed from my oath to the constitution and nation I swore so many years ago to protect and defend. That nation and its laws no longer exist.
Do you need a Kleenex??
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