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Old 06-26-2015, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Sugarmill Woods , FL
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Old 06-26-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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Liberals.... Always the worrywarts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusian_catastrophe





Tell the Asians, Indians, and Africans to stop reproducing. If you think that there is a current strain on resources and the environment now, wait until there is an additional 2 billion people in 50 years... Who won't want to live in huts, and will want IPhones, cars, air conditioning...
They will be demanding their Obamaphones.
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Old 06-26-2015, 11:45 AM
 
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Do people like you really think simply denying developments they don't like will change reality?
Do you really think people will alter the way they live every time some hysterical doomsday message is released?

Dream on.
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Old 06-26-2015, 11:48 AM
 
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Not to worry, it is just our planet's way of flushing the toilet... she will be fine in the end.
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Old 06-26-2015, 12:06 PM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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Nuclear destruction is solely up to us humans, and that danger still exists.

Science is much more advanced today than it was when you were a kid. Hence warnings today are much more serious than those of the past, unfortunately.


Every lib I talk too spiels this same line.

They're too dense to figure that this same argument will be used on them in the future, when science has advanced farther, and they're ordered to report for extermination, to prevent extinction.......of their masters.

Liberalism, a mental disorder of staggering proportions.

Unless liberals succeed in making themselves so stupid that they forget how to breathe, there will be plenty of humans well into the thousands of years from now.


CN.......
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Old 06-26-2015, 12:55 PM
 
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I read about that as well a couple of days ago. People usually think of polar bears etc., but I think less striking animals are much more important. Bees for instance. In some countries they are disappearing fast, which poses a problem for nature and agriculture. The disappearance of bigger species is less of a problem, not least because humans can replace them. Sure, tourists like lions, tigers and such beasts, but even if they were to go extinct, food supply would limit the spread of their former prey. The weight of the various remaining species would shift, but sooner or later there would be a new equilibrium.

I think there is probably a certain critical diversity which nature needs in order to remain flexible and sustainable regardless of minor changes. But that critical diversity varies a lot, it must be very different for a jungle and a steppe.

In Europe we have lost quite a lot of species over the past few millennia as the spread of humans has destroyed a vast portion of nature. Still, so far nature has survived and even seen a certain rebound, although it is certainly much different than 2000 years ago.

People always think of food chains, which creates the idea that when one link is missing, the whole thing collapses. I don't think that is the case usually (except maybe in extremely challenging environments with very few species). It is more of a food fabric rather than a food chain, so we have to make sure the fabric does not get too thin.
This is much too nuanced a respone for most of the mouth-breathers that any discussion about the environment attracts on this site, but I thank you for it anyway. As you point out, it's all about maintaining a balance, and how to maintain that balance in a way that is healthy for both the planet and all the beings inhabiting it is certainly a discussion we should be having. Probably just not in this forum.
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Old 06-26-2015, 01:16 PM
 
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What caused the other five mass extinctions? What happened after each of those?
the last one, 65 million years ago, was an asteroid strike. others were caused by a gamma ray burst, and comet strikes. in each of those, at least 80% of species were wiped out. but the earth rebounded each time with new species evolving over time.
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Old 06-26-2015, 01:37 PM
 
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Libs haven't seemed to figure out that they're the ones likely to die first. Most conservatives have life skills that will have them supping on liberals for dinner. Of course, their meat is a bit stringy.
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Old 06-26-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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Nuclear destruction is solely up to us humans, and that danger still exists.

Science is much more advanced today than it was when you were a kid. Hence warnings today are much more serious than those of the past, unfortunately.

Then explain why the typical weatherperson is right maybe 50% of the time?
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Old 06-26-2015, 02:06 PM
 
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Libs haven't seemed to figure out that they're the ones likely to die first. Most conservatives have life skills that will have them supping on liberals for dinner. Of course, their meat is a bit stringy.
The LAST thing I'm dining on is a liberal --- they're full of s**t.
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