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No one is forcing anyone to have an abortion. We are just protecting the ability for women that decide to have one to get one without undue problems or delay.
The RW Religious folk claim it is murder but that is just eyewash as these same folks advocate murdering men, women and children by the tens of thousands in other countries to protect our petroleum investors.
The Catholic Church is against both. There are other churches that hold the same beliefs.
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The abortion issue is not about the abortions but about the male control of women. Some men cannot abide a woman being able to reject their control by aborting the man's unborn. Too bad. If these men were worthy of being a father the women would have their kids.
The fishing should be good using such a wide net. You do understand that the majority of those at any pro-life event is female?
Nobody is forcing Catholic women to have abortions. They should, if they decide to, have a safe way to do so. Same applies to other religions as well. After all if your belief is so powerful then women that really believe would never consider one. What unaffiliated women decide to do is none of your concern.
Yes, a lot of anti abortion protestors are women. I suspect most are following the dictum that if I had to have a child so does every other woman. They, too, can mind their own business.
This is more about the Freedom to Choose. That Freedom is unacceptable to many for many reasons. Freedom to Choose is a victory of individuals over the coercion of the mob.
I thought Republican were all about individual freedom. Apparently Freedom is only available to the select few that can never become pregnant.
Maybe too wide of a requirement but RvW does allow for these sorts of regulations at least in certain instances.
This was obviously to close clinics, it's allowed but the aim of the regulations was to close abortion clinics and that is the reason for the suit. We have seen this in several states.
Nobody is forcing Catholic women to have abortions. They should, if they decide to, have a safe way to do so. Same applies to other religions as well. After all if your belief is so powerful then women that really believe would never consider one. What unaffiliated women decide to do is none of your concern.
That really wasn't my point was it? (I'm also not Catholic)
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Yes, a lot of anti abortion protestors are women. I suspect most are following the dictum that if I had to have a child so does every other woman. They, too, can mind their own business.
This is more about the Freedom to Choose. That Freedom is unacceptable to many for many reasons. Freedom to Choose is a victory of individuals over the coercion of the mob.
I thought Republican were all about individual freedom. Apparently Freedom is only available to the select few that can never become pregnant.
So we can agree that there was very little of actual substance in your original post?
This was obviously to close clinics, it's allowed but the aim of the regulations was to close abortion clinics and that is the reason for the suit. We have seen this in several states.
You are saying that it is allowed but the suit was brought over the thoughts of those who enacted the laws?
Aren't laws that are legal, viable even if not done for reasons you agree with?
GregW writes: The abortion issue is not about the abortions but about the male control of women. Some men cannot abide a woman being able to reject their control by aborting the man's unborn. Too bad. If these men were worthy of being a father the women would have their kids.
That is the essence of the anti-abortion argument. If men got pregnant, they would abort like clockwork, but some men can't fathom the idea of women's reproductive freedom.
"She's gotta pay! We've got to make her pay for her fun!" Bite me. And with the waning of actual surgical abortions in favor of (much more private) medicinal methods, men won't know what happened until five years from now, when kindergartens are less crowded.
GregW writes: The abortion issue is not about the abortions but about the male control of women. Some men cannot abide a woman being able to reject their control by aborting the man's unborn. Too bad. If these men were worthy of being a father the women would have their kids.
That is the essence of the anti-abortion argument. If men got pregnant, they would abort like clockwork, but some men can't fathom the idea of women's reproductive freedom.
Women can get pregnant (odd that I have to point this out) and yet a majority of pro-life individuals are women. How does this work in your way of thinking?
All of this "for the health of the woman" talk and they are fighting completely reasonable rules that require providers to have some basic surgical safety equipment and hospital admission privileges.
All of this "for the health of the woman" talk and they are fighting completely reasonable rules that require providers to have some basic surgical safety equipment and hospital admission privileges.
You are saying that it is allowed but the suit was brought over the thoughts of those who enacted the laws?
Aren't laws that are legal, viable even if not done for reasons you agree with?
The SC declared it unconstitutional for states to enact laws that create undue hardships for women who seek abortions and gave itself authority to decide whether state laws create those undue hardships. The standard has less to do with what was in legislator's minds than with the law's impact.
The decision will rule the Texas law unconstitutional in a 5-3 vote unless Kennedy switches his vote to cause a 4-4 tie.
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