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Old 06-30-2015, 06:41 PM
 
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There is no defending this.
Of course there is ....... it's called watch what we SAY, not what we DO.
Hypocrisy is alive and well in the Leftist World.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:03 PM
 
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There is no defending this.
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But you know someone is going to try......


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Old 06-30-2015, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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While he tells you the Stars and Bars is bad:

_"Why Is The U.S. Desperate To OK Slavery In Malaysia?"_

"The provision, which bars countries that engage in slavery from being part of major trade deals with the U.S., was written by Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.). At the insistence of the White House, Menendez agreed to modify his language to say that as long as a country is taking "concrete" steps toward reducing human trafficking and forced labor, it can be part of a trade deal."

huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/26/tpp-malaysia-slavery_n_7444978.html

And the progressive left still insists it's qualified to pick your president.
Isn't that the same Democrat Bob Menendez who was indicted on public corruption charges and allegedly solicited child prostitutes?
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Carmichael, CA
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There was a very sad case of a young woman, who thought she was getting a housekeeping job but was instead held as an unpaid slave for years. (The two countries were Malaysia and Indonesia but I don't remember which is the one that keeps slaves.) It would have gone unnoticed when the young woman was finally beaten and starved to death, but the "owner" was in the U.S. for some reason at the time. U.S. authorities were trying to charge her with murder but there was a lot of push-back to "not make it an international incident" and just let the woman go home.

I'll have to find that story again to see how it turned out.

There's waaaaay too much slavery still alive and well in other countries.
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Old 07-01-2015, 07:58 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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O-cult members ignore the fact of modern-day slavery and the sex trade, especially at our southern border.
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Old 07-01-2015, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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O-cult members ignore the fact of modern-day slavery and the sex trade, especially at our southern border.
You are aware it was the Republicans are the ones that helped push this through. Without them, this would never have passed Congress.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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You are aware it was the Republicans are the ones that helped push this through. Without them, this would never have passed Congress.
That's a bit of a cop out and deflection. The US has a number of pieces of law that dissolve or prohibit trade agreements with countries classified as slave states. I'm pretty sure that not all of the GOP representatives and Senators were au fait with the list of tier 3 slave states, but rely on the established law to prevent such a mistake being made.

However the push to permit Malaysia to be a treaty signatory (even with it's tier 3 status) isn't on the house or senate, but the executive (and it may not even be Obama personally, but the executive buck stops with him). Here's the quote straight off the HuffPo

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Yes, really, slavery: the Senate voted for an amendment that would make it more difficult for countries that engage in slavery to be in the TPP, and the Obama administration objected.
So this isn't on the senate, or the house, but on the executive.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:57 AM
 
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Isn't that the same Democrat Bob Menendez who was indicted on public corruption charges and allegedly solicited child prostitutes?
What ever happened to those charges? Did they get dropped after Bob agreed to play along?
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Old 07-01-2015, 01:32 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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You are aware it was the Republicans are the ones that helped push this through. Without them, this would never have passed Congress.
Everyone is aware, and that's because they're for big business.
But at least some of them actually want to do something about the border, unlike the Obama administration and followers who want to just let everyone over, including criminals involved in the sex trade. Whine about a stupid flag and events from long past while ignoring modern-day slavery...


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That's a bit of a cop out and deflection. The US has a number of pieces of law that dissolve or prohibit trade agreements with countries classified as slave states. I'm pretty sure that not all of the GOP representatives and Senators were au fait with the list of tier 3 slave states, but rely on the established law to prevent such a mistake being made.

However the push to permit Malaysia to be a treaty signatory (even with it's tier 3 status) isn't on the house or senate, but the executive (and it may not even be Obama personally, but the executive buck stops with him). Here's the quote straight off the HuffPo

So this isn't on the senate, or the house, but on the executive.
And there's that.
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Old 07-01-2015, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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While he tells you the Stars and Bars is bad:

_"Why Is The U.S. Desperate To OK Slavery In Malaysia?"_

"The provision, which bars countries that engage in slavery from being part of major trade deals with the U.S., was written by Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.). At the insistence of the White House, Menendez agreed to modify his language to say that as long as a country is taking "concrete" steps toward reducing human trafficking and forced labor, it can be part of a trade deal."

huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/26/tpp-malaysia-slavery_n_7444978.html

And the progressive left still insists it's qualified to pick your president.
I really which all of your threads didn't involve a 'blame the left' sort of mentality. You'd make better points if they weren't constantly being overshadowed with partisan child splay.

I will say you're title is misleading a little bit. Saying 'take concrete steps to addressing the problem' is still not as bad as just allowing it to happen.

With that said, the TTP is a monstrosity and almost as vile and corrupted as the PATRIOT Act. It's no different than the other trade deals, which are nothing but the result of multinational corporations bullying the political system into getting what they want. And while Obama is spearheading this project, I would say it's not an issue that falls within the area of partisan belief. The Democrats and Republicans are on the same team with this one. There are outliers in both parties, like Bernie and Rand, who are speaking out against it, the line dividing the too parties is more fictional than ideological. They have to pretend there's a battle so we feel like they're representing us; but they represent themselves.
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