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Old 07-04-2015, 10:07 AM
 
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My plan already went up in January 2015, and dropped most of the coverage! It's cheaper for me to get most of my meds by paying cash instead of using my insurance. They'll probably go up, and drop even more coverage.
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:11 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Yet another progressive leftist incapacity to analyze reality exposed:

"Health insurance companies say new customers under the Affordable Care Act have been sicker than expected, while federal officials say they want the requests scaled back."

nytimes.com/2015/07/04/us/health-insurance-companies-seek-big-rate-increases-for-2016.html

Big rate increases. That was your jobs, Bozos. Meanwhile, another misguided concern of the ACA-championing progressive left falls--that of "preventive medicine":

"Overtesting has also created a new, unanticipated problem: overdiagnosis. This isn't misdiagnosis--the erroneous diagnosis of a disease. This is the correct diagnosis of a disease that is never going to bother you in your lifetime. We've long assumed that if we screen a healthy population for diseases like cancer or coronary-artery disease, and catch those diseases early, we'll be able to treat them before they get dangerously advanced, and save lives in large numbers. But it hasn't turned out that way. For instance, cancer screening with mammography, ultrasound, and blood testing has dramatically increased the detection of breast, thyroid, and prostate cancer during the past quarter century. We're treating hundreds of thousands more people each year for these diseases than we ever have. Yet only a tiny reduction in death, if any, has resulted."

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Old 07-04-2015, 10:14 AM
 
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"Health insurance companies say new customers under the Affordable Care Act have been sicker than expected, while federal officials say they want the requests scaled back."

This should come as no surprise when you are requiring insurance companies to cover anyone that walks in the door and the mandate requiring everyone buy insurance has no teeth.
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:21 AM
 
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No reason why normal weight people with fewer controllable healthcare risks should pay the same premiums as someone with greater controllable healthcare risks. In other words, you are free to smoke and/ or carry extra weight and pay higher premiums or take responsibility for your self.
While we're at it we can start charging people that do not live in a bubble and engage in any dangerous activity, hell why not use DNA testing to charge people more who are genetically predisposed to disease.
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:59 AM
 
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Thanks leftists? I thought it was the right that fought single payer.


Dems did ACA all on their own and could have chosen a different path.



Thanks leftists.
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Old 07-04-2015, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Old news. This was in an article from the Montana Insurance Commissioner a couple months ago. Insurance companies doing business in Montana want rate increases up to 35% due to a drop in profits since the PP&ACA went into effect.
Ah, yes, I remember it well:
1. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor!
2. If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance!
3. American families will save $2500 per year in insurance premiums!

Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act:
Protection? Not so as you would notice.
Affordable? For a small minority, perhaps, but not for the majority of customers.
Care? It provides insurance, not care. There IS a difference!
Act? At least that is accurate; it IS an act, no doubt about it!
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Old 07-04-2015, 11:56 AM
 
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This says it all:

The Crony Capitalist says we are here to help no matter if it is Health, War or whatever it may they want to enrich themselves off of other peoples money.

Obamacare was not started by the 99% . It was started by the 1 percent Crony Capitalists under the guise of helping us to help themselves. Washington DC does not listen to the 99%.


https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/to...=a&indexType=i

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Insurance $2,156,900,089

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Enough Said!
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Old 07-04-2015, 12:03 PM
 
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No, the insurance companies paid both parties off. Google 2008 campaign contributions.
Yep!

The Crony Capitalists in Big Pharma and Insurance started Obamacare under the guise of helping people.

They needed stealth bailouts because they would have needed to take paycuts in this globalist utopia where many Americans are having to take paycuts and can't afford their highway robbery prices anymore.

So their brilliant solution is make everyone pitch in to prop these maggots up
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Old 07-04-2015, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Houston
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This should come as no surprise when you are requiring insurance companies to cover anyone that walks in the door and the mandate requiring everyone buy insurance has no teeth.
Bingo!
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Old 07-04-2015, 12:28 PM
 
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Nice going Democrats! Making affordable health care unaffordable. And you folks are still patting yourselves on the back over this boondoggle.
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