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Old 07-05-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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Delusional claims by people who reject climate science and overwhelming evidence because of their religious and ideological beliefs are more than sad.
I think you meant consensus science, which isn't actually science. None of what you predict ever has come true. It is time to stop using idealistic climate models.

 
Old 07-05-2015, 10:59 AM
 
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Climate change is highly measurable and highly accepted by the scientific community. If you are an armchair conservative who denies that, you may as well cling to the notion that the earth is still flat. The only thing is question is whether or not humans are the cause of it.
Yes climate change is real, no one denies that.

Equating people to believing something else if they don't believe in your beliefs, is intellectually dishonest, and is hidden as an insult.
You need to stop listening to liars like the one in the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQvqHjTTces
 
Old 07-05-2015, 11:19 AM
 
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I wonder why "global warming" is considered to be completely "solved", while "general relativity", "string theory", and "space-time" is fully open to new information and inquiry?
One, the global warming debate, is based on modern day observation of data. The other is an abstract theoretical model to try and explain how the tiniest building blocks of matter interact.

Most scientists believe string theory is the best approach and there have been many and sometimes contradictory equations over the years as our knowledge increases.

“I have not failed 700 times. I’ve succeeded in proving 700 ways how not to build a lightbulb." - Thomas Edison
 
Old 07-05-2015, 11:26 AM
 
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Yes climate change is real, no one denies that.

Equating people to believing something else if they don't believe in your beliefs, is intellectually dishonest, and is hidden as an insult.
It is generally accepted that climate change denial involves denying the scientific consensus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_denial

It's only skepticism if you're actually willing to accept the facts, which is something that you and others like you are seemingly incapable of doing.
 
Old 07-05-2015, 11:40 AM
 
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It is generally accepted that climate change denial involves denying the scientific consensus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_denial

It's only skepticism if you're actually willing to accept the facts, which is something that you and others like you are seemingly incapable of doing.
So it is consensus science, that is not actual science ( that is called politics ), which is a way to avoid debate.

Real science is not voted on, that is called politics.

"The debate is over" those are the words of a politician.
 
Old 07-05-2015, 11:55 AM
 
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Global warming will probably cost me less than $10 a month for the rest of my life while the actions to prevent or reduce it threaten to cost me much more and most likely won't reduce or prevent it.

I suggest liberals google "serenity prayer".
 
Old 07-05-2015, 11:59 AM
 
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So it is consensus science, that is not actual science ( that is called politics ), which is a way to avoid debate.

Real science is not voted on, that is called politics.

"The debate is over" those are the words of a politician.
It wasn't voted on, it was confirmed repeatedly.
Not that you would ever actually look into it.
 
Old 07-05-2015, 11:59 AM
 
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That's an awesome form of argumentation right there.

Lavoisier toppling the idea of Phlogiston should be a warning to those who think that Kepler and his elliptical orbits are settled?
 
Old 07-05-2015, 02:22 PM
 
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I hope for their sake you aren't running any ALCO's. lol
Nah, EMD-70ac. 4000 hp prime movers and with 5 other engines attached on the head end all at notch eight makes the ground shake.

And of course since they were that close to the track by law I used quite a bit of air through horns.
 
Old 07-05-2015, 02:24 PM
 
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So do you reject the basic physics and overwhelming evidence of man-made global warming because of your religious beliefs, your political beliefs, or both? Or is it because you just can't be bothered spending the time learning about the science and the evidence and don't want to think too hard about something you don't want to accept anyway?
The science isn't proven other than the earth heats and cools periodically.
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