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Old 07-06-2015, 01:03 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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But the real jolt for tax-cutting opponents was that the 03 Bush tax cuts also generated a massive increase in federal tax receipts. From 2004 to 2007, federal tax revenues increased by $785 billion, the largest four-year increase in American history. According to the Treasury Department, individual and corporate income tax receipts were up 40 percent in the three years following the Bush tax cuts. And (bonus) the rich paid an even higher percentage of the total tax burden than they had at any time in at least the previous 40 years. This was news to theNew York Times, whose astonished editorial board could only describe the gains as a “surprise windfall.”

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The following is Americas "Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary" from 1940-2014. Receipt= tax revenue, Outlay= spending.

Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary


GW Bush was in office from 2001-2009, and his tax cuts happened in 2001 and 2003.

Receipts/revenues.
1998- $1.7 trillion
1999- $1.8 trillion
2000- $2 trillion
2001- $1.9 trillion
2002- $1.8 trillion
2003- $1.7 trillion

The above was the largest consecutive revenue decrease since the 1940's.


Or look at it this way,

Clinton was in office from 1993 to 2001.
1993 revenues- $1.1 trillion.
2001 revenues- $1.991 trillion.
(Clinton had a $900 billion dollar revenue increase.)

GW Bush was in office 2001-2009
2001 revenues- $1.9 trillion.
2009 revenues- $2.1 trillion
(Bush had a $200 billion dollar revenue increase.)

Obama was in office from 2009-today.
2009 revenues- $2.1 trillion
2014 revenues- $3 trillion
(Obama had a $900 billion dollar revenue increase.)

Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary



Republicans get their information greatly from Fox news. And studies show that about 60% of the things Fox news says are false, untrue, or lies (and CNN and MSNBC are not far behind in the false statements and lies they tell viewers.)

‘Pants On Fire’: Analysis Shows 60% Of Fox News ‘Facts’ Are Really Lies

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Old 07-06-2015, 04:58 PM
 
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Oo oooh.
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Old 07-06-2015, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I'm gonna say republicans, even though I hate their personal beliefs.
neither

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I'm torn though. Money isn't everything.
The problem isn't money, the problem is people taking my money.
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Old 07-07-2015, 09:16 AM
 
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I would take a healthy liberal economy over anything the conservatives have in mind.
A Healthy Liberal economy?

Well what makes it healthy? Taxing consumers into oblivion?
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Old 07-07-2015, 09:19 AM
 
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The following is Americas "Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary" from 1940-2014. Receipt= tax revenue, Outlay= spending.

Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary


GW Bush was in office from 2001-2009, and his tax cuts happened in 2001 and 2003.

Receipts/revenues.
1998- $1.7 trillion
1999- $1.8 trillion
2000- $2 trillion
2001- $1.9 trillion
2002- $1.8 trillion
2003- $1.7 trillion

The above was the largest consecutive revenue decrease since the 1940's.


Or look at it this way,

Clinton was in office from 1993 to 2001.
1993 revenues- $1.1 trillion.
2001 revenues- $1.991 trillion.
(Clinton had a $900 billion dollar revenue increase.)

GW Bush was in office 2001-2009
2001 revenues- $1.9 trillion.
2009 revenues- $2.1 trillion
(Bush had a $200 billion dollar revenue increase.)

Obama was in office from 2009-today.
2009 revenues- $2.1 trillion
2014 revenues- $3 trillion
(Obama had a $900 billion dollar revenue increase.)

Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary



Republicans get their information greatly from Fox news. And studies show that about 60% of the things Fox news says are false, untrue, or lies (and CNN and MSNBC are not far behind in the false statements and lies they tell viewers.)

‘Pants On Fire’: Analysis Shows 60% Of Fox News ‘Facts’ Are Really Lies
What good is Revenue if it goes to Garbage projects and does not help the economy?
And just putting a President next to revenues does not give the whole story.
There is also this little thing we call Congress that has a bit of power.
Also the Fed has just a bit of input.
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Old 07-07-2015, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Neither as both sides have been bought by the same lenders that are squeezing us for all we have.
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Old 07-07-2015, 02:38 PM
 
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Its basically monkeying around. Republican foot soldiers are absolute idiots. That is why you'd see them speaking from both ends on economy as you just did: "Economy is doing well because republicans...". Then flip around... "(The same) economy is doing terrible because Obama..."
" Republican foot soldiers are absolute idiots."

As the say,"When you have NOTHING of value to say, throw out insults."

I'll just consider the source and let it go at that.
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Old 07-07-2015, 02:41 PM
 
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GW Bush's tax cuts gave the richest 1% of Americans 52% of the tax cuts and gave the middle class 10% of the tax cuts.
Bush Tax Cuts After 2002: June 2002 CTJ Analysis


And today's republicans do the same thing. They block middle class and small business tax cuts.
GOP Senators Reject Tax Cuts for Middle Class - CBS News
GOP Blocks Senate Small-Business Tax Cut Bill : Roll Call News

And at the same time they fight for corporate tax cuts (even for corporations that outsource jobs.)
Senate Republicans block bill to end tax breaks for outsourcing | TheHill


And in 2016 all the republicans are waiting to do the same thing.
Rand Paul's fix for Detroit: lower taxes for the rich, more pollution & lower wages for the poor
How Presidential Candidate Ted Cruz Would Radically Increase Taxes on Everyone But the Rich | Tax Justice Blog
Donald Trump's Regressive and Retrograde Tax Plan | Tax Justice Blog


And according to Americas most respected economists tax cuts do (not) increase government revenues.
A Tax Cut Won't Increase Revenue - Forbes
"And according to Americas most respected economists" Economists from the left have NO credibility.

You can post ALL the let posts you want but, the stats speak for themselves.
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Old 07-07-2015, 02:45 PM
 
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The following is Americas "Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary" from 1940-2014. Receipt= tax revenue, Outlay= spending.

Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary


GW Bush was in office from 2001-2009, and his tax cuts happened in 2001 and 2003.

Receipts/revenues.
1998- $1.7 trillion
1999- $1.8 trillion
2000- $2 trillion
2001- $1.9 trillion
2002- $1.8 trillion
2003- $1.7 trillion

The above was the largest consecutive revenue decrease since the 1940's.


Or look at it this way,

Clinton was in office from 1993 to 2001.
1993 revenues- $1.1 trillion.
2001 revenues- $1.991 trillion.
(Clinton had a $900 billion dollar revenue increase.)

GW Bush was in office 2001-2009
2001 revenues- $1.9 trillion.
2009 revenues- $2.1 trillion
(Bush had a $200 billion dollar revenue increase.)

Obama was in office from 2009-today.
2009 revenues- $2.1 trillion
2014 revenues- $3 trillion
(Obama had a $900 billion dollar revenue increase.)

Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary



Republicans get their information greatly from Fox news. And studies show that about 60% of the things Fox news says are false, untrue, or lies (and CNN and MSNBC are not far behind in the false statements and lies they tell viewers.)

‘Pants On Fire’: Analysis Shows 60% Of Fox News ‘Facts’ Are Really Lies
You can post article from the Tax Policy Center all you want. THEY are very left leaning.

"The Tax Policy Center is a joint venture of the Urban Institute and Brookings Institution.

BOTH very left orgs.
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Old 07-07-2015, 02:57 PM
 
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Congrats on regurgitating the talking point that were debunked years ago. Facts matter (to some of us): Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama? - Forbes

Congratulations on attempting to divert from the truth. Attempt fail, big time.

Lets' see. Your article states.

"The first year of any incoming president term is saddled—for better or for worse—with the budget set by the president whom immediately precedes the new occupant of the White House. Indeed, not only was the 2009 budget the property of George W. Bush—and passed by the 2008 Congress—it was in effect four months before Barack Obama took the oath of office."

The FACTS are:

"The United States federal budget for fiscal year 2009 began as a spending request submitted by President George W. Bush to the 110th Congress. The final resolution written and submitted by the 110th Congress to be forwarded to the President was approved by the House on June 5, 2008.[3] The final spending bills for the budget were not signed into law until March 11, 2009 by President Barack Obama, nearly five and a half months after the fiscal year began."

So Forbes is saying that BUSH signed the 2009 budget when in FACT it was OBAMA who signed the 2009 budget.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_U...federal_budget

A simple question. What was the debt when Obama took office? And what is it now?

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