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I have been a Republican for years with somewhat hawkish views. Over the last year or so, I've become much more in line with Rand and the libertarian wing. I now view Snowden as doing the right thing.
So even when the president agrees with you on an issue you find someway to attack on that very issue, amazing.
Uh, no. President Obama would NOT agree with me on Snowden, which is why I clearly said that "Senator Obama" would have viewed him as a national hero had this happened back in 07. I am not attacking anyone; all I'm doing is pointing out Obama's hypocrisy through the years. I hope that doesn't hurt your feelings.
Which is why I said "Senator Obama." Back in 2007, Obama would have called Snowden a hero for our democracy had it happened then. Now, he views Snowden as a traitor. All I'm doing is pointing out his hypocrisy. And Obama is not only a hypocrite on Snowden but many other issues as well.
Right vs wrong is not the same as legal vs illegal.
Umm... no?
It's required by the US constitution that any government body that wants to conduct a search on you must have a warrant. Unless the NSA had hundreds of thousands of warrants (which we all know it didn't), the mass collection of data is absolutely a violation of constitutional rights and is thus illegal.
I have been a Republican for years with somewhat hawkish views. Over the last year or so, I've become much more in line with Rand and the libertarian wing. I now view Snowden as doing the right thing.
Have any of you come to similar conclusions?
As far as changing from what I thought was Conservative, (happened to be Neo-Cons in disguise), to learning what actual Conservatives are, that was a number of years back. Extremism doesn't work on either side.
As for Snowden, I've always thought of him as a Patriot for what he did.
Keep in mind that Obama doesn't really stand for anything. He says one thing one day, next day it's 180 degrees. Snowden might get to return after all.
The government violated the 4th and 5th Amendments in order to violate the 1st Amendment.
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Right vs wrong is not the same as legal vs illegal.
Doesn't matter......you ought to be holding your entire government to higher standards.
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I have been a Republican for years with somewhat hawkish views. Over the last year or so, I've become much more in line with Rand and the libertarian wing. I now view Snowden as doing the right thing.
Have any of you come to similar conclusions?
Good for you.
Snowden and Manning are both heroes.
Thrilled....
Mircea
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