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Old 07-08-2015, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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I would also like to point out a pretty inconvenient truth to the Trump lovers... Crime has been dropping in all states and pretty much every city in the United States for a good 20-30 years, the exact same time that illegal immigration has reached record or near record levels and in which the overall illegal population continued to climb. How do you reconcile these two facts if you believe that illegals are themselves mostly, if not completely, violent criminals? There would be no logical way that crime rates would fall as much as they have if that were true.
Another dumb post. Nobody said they "believe that illegals are themselves mostly, if not completely, violent criminals?"

Try reading the facts. Trump's comments were 100% accurate.
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Old 07-08-2015, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Not just that, but the big cities with the lowest level of crime, El Paso, Austin, San Diego, and San Jose, all have sizeable populations of Latino immigrants, including illegal immigrants. Meanwhile, high crime Detroit, Baltimore, Cleveland, Memphis, and St. Louis have few immigrants, legal or illegal, Latino or non-Latino. New Orleans before Katrina had the fewest illegal immigrants of any large US city (although this has changed)- so based on Trump's logic it should have been the safest big city in the US.

I oppose sanctuary cities and think they should be shut down but let's not demonize immigrants unnecessarily like Trump does.
You obviously have not read Trumps comments. Try again.
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Old 07-08-2015, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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RICO might be a fascinating law experiment. Im not a attorney though, so no idea if its really applicable.
The Feds appear to be able to stretch RICO quite well when they want to.
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Old 07-08-2015, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No, though I am sure a lawsuit and settlement will probably happen.
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Old 07-08-2015, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Earth
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You obviously have not read Trumps comments. Try again.
I did.
According to Trump logic, El Paso, San Jose, Austin, and San Diego, which all have many Latino illegals, should have more crime than Detroit, St. Louis, Cleveland, and Baltimore, which have few Latino illegals. Furthermore according to Trump logic New Orleans before 2005 should have been the safest city in the US, as it had virtually no "criminals" and "rapists" given that it had fewer illegals than any other US city pre-Katrina.
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Old 07-08-2015, 05:49 PM
 
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They care more about their agenda than a citizens life, make no mistake.
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Old 07-08-2015, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Houston
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They care more about their agenda than a citizens life, make no mistake.

She was white. White lives don't matter.
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Old 07-08-2015, 10:19 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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'It's time people listened to Donald Trump,' says Jamiel Shaw's mother | Daily Mail Online

I'm not a Trump fan. But Jamiel's murder was so tragic. And so is Kathryn's.


And BTW, this is not all the Obama administration's fault; the Bush administration was little better, the main difference was the time period.
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Old 07-08-2015, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Japan
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One of the things that occurred to me after seeing this story is that the shooter deliberately committed a crime to ensure his imprisonment in the United States, thereby preventing yet another deportation. As such, I am unconvinced that this legislation would prove a deterrent.
And you think he would prefer being in jail for murder in America to being free in Mexico because... ?
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Old 07-08-2015, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I don't really understand why people try to turn illegal entry into this country a non offense. If you came here illegally at 1 year old or 100 years old your illegal. You should be sent back to where ever you came from.
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