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Old 07-09-2015, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Forcing kids to be taught at school that they should support homosexuality and soon other preferences/orientations seems to me as bad as forcing X religion on them. So yes, I sort of get what you are saying.
Not supporting, but accepting. Why is something as simple as accepting a person for who they are so damn complicated?

 
Old 07-09-2015, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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This society is lacking in common sense and empathy.

Forcing anyone to do anything they would rather not do is an assault.
No, it isn't.

If you make your kid eat his vegetables, you're not assaulting him.

If you make your husband mow the lawn, you're not assaulting him.

If the cop with the radar alongside the road makes you obey the speed limit, it's not an assault.
 
Old 07-09-2015, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Forcing kids to be taught at school that they should support homosexuality and soon other preferences/orientations seems to me as bad as forcing X religion on them. So yes, I sort of get what you are saying.
In what school, and how specifically, are kids taught that they should "support homosexuality"?
 
Old 07-09-2015, 01:21 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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I have exactly the same amount of pity for this couple as I would if they put up a "No Jews" sign in their window. It's illegal to discriminate based on sex, religion, disability, or sexual orientation, regardless of one's personal beliefs. Being drunk, obese, or sketchy are not legally protected classes. I agree with Bree's earlier post: "While I think that was a lot of money, maybe it'll fix stupid." It's unfortunate that they believe the law does not apply to them, but they did this to themselves.
 
Old 07-09-2015, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I have exactly the same amount of pity for this couple as I would if they put up a "No Jews" sign in their window. It's illegal to discriminate based on sex, religion, disability, or sexual orientation, regardless of one's personal beliefs. Being drunk, obese, or sketchy are not legally protected classes. I agree with Bree's earlier post: "While I think that was a lot of money, maybe it'll fix stupid." It's unfortunate that they believe the law does not apply to them, but they did this to themselves.
I agree, except that I'd replace the word illegal with immoral.
 
Old 07-09-2015, 01:57 PM
 
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Personally I want my grandchildren to grow up in a world where "marriage" is about a man and a woman joining together to love each other and have children. I don't want them getting all messed up believing some store bought idea of a same sex "marriage" being anything close to the union God intended for a man and a woman. It is not natural.

Hey, isn't everybody about "natural" these days? How about putting some fake ingredients in your dinner tonight. Or some fake "honey" from China in your homemade cake?

The baker should follow his heart, sad to say but his "rights" have been violated.

I think it is wrong, unfair and get ready for transgender bathrooms.
 
Old 07-09-2015, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Personally I want my grandchildren to grow up in a world where "marriage" is about a man and a woman joining together to love each other and have children. I don't want them getting all messed up believing some store bought idea of a same sex "marriage" being anything close to the union God intended for a man and a woman. It is not natural.

Hey, isn't everybody about "natural" these days? How about putting some fake ingredients in your dinner tonight. Or some fake "honey" from China in your homemade cake?

The baker should follow his heart, sad to say but his "rights" have been violated.

I think it is wrong, unfair and get ready for transgender bathrooms.
His "rights" were in no way violated.
A business catering to the public is at the will of the public, and personal feelings should not get in the way.
Personal feelings do not belong in the business world.
A business is a business, and personal feelings and beliefs are for after the business is closed for the day.

Bob.
 
Old 07-09-2015, 02:31 PM
 
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Personally I want my grandchildren to grow up in a world where "marriage" is about a man and a woman joining together to love each other and have children. I don't want them getting all messed up believing some store bought idea of a same sex "marriage" being anything close to the union God intended for a man and a woman. It is not natural.

Hey, isn't everybody about "natural" these days? How about putting some fake ingredients in your dinner tonight. Or some fake "honey" from China in your homemade cake?

The baker should follow his heart, sad to say but his "rights" have been violated.

I think it is wrong, unfair and get ready for transgender bathrooms.
MARRIAGE is unnatural. What is natural is humping at will.

I'll bet you use Mirracle Whip. Dream Whip. I bet you eat cheese.

Miracle whip is fake mayonnaise.

Dream whip is fake whipped cream.

Nearly all cheese has all kinds of chemical ingredients to artificially age and "mature" it. Make it set up faster and get it to market faster.

The vast majority of what you buy at the grocery store has all sorts of "unnatural" ingredients in it to increase shelf life, make it taste better, and even just make it look better.

I don't believe in your god, and I don't intend to allow you to foist your weird beliefs on what is "right" off on me, or anyone around me. After all, according to your religion, as a woman, I shouldn't be allowed to speak up in the presence of a man or have the same rights of inheritance or self-determination.

You can think it is "wrong" til the cows come home. You're not going to be allowed to force that view on the rest of us. You don't like the idea of men loving other men, or women loving other women? Fine. Don't do that. That's your right. NOT discriminating against gay people is not the same thing as forcing you to have gay sex. Stop pretending that it is.

Your grandchildren are going to grow up in a world where men can marry men, and women can marry women, and men can marry women, and men don't have to marry anyone, and neither do women. Where black people can marry "white" people, and Asians can marry black people, and the English can marry the French, and Canadians can marry Albanians, and all of THOSE combinations as well.

The world is a better place for it. It is a kinder place. It is a safer place. I'm very glad to be living in a world where you can't force your weird superstitions on the rest of us. I'm very glad to see bigotry being pushed out of the world. When the last person who believes as you do dies of old age or gets smart and changes their mind, that'll be a day to celebrate.
 
Old 07-09-2015, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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In what school, and how specifically, are kids taught that they should "support homosexuality"?
The proposed 'new' curriculum in Helena MT was widely criticized and abandoned. It was alluded that Planned Parenthood and other organizations were somehow involved with the design of the curriculum, whether true or I do not know, nor do I care.

However the proposed changes were LOUDLY fought by residents of the county.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/07/us...anted=all&_r=0

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Last summer, school officials here in Montana’s capital unveiled new guidelines for teaching about sexuality and tolerance. They proposed teaching first graders that “human beings can love people of the same gender,” and fifth graders that sexual intercourse can involve “vaginal, oral or anal penetration.”
 
Old 07-09-2015, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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In what school, and how specifically, are kids taught that they should "support homosexuality"?
Students Taught about Homosexual Foreplay Disguised As Tolerance - Stand Up For The Truth and Homosexuals brainwashing our children in elementary schools and Teaching Homosexuality in Public Schools and sadly, I had grandchildren in CA and am glad they are out of that state: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ca...-no-parent-opt

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Originally Posted by JustJulia View Post
I have exactly the same amount of pity for this couple as I would if they put up a "No Jews" sign in their window. It's illegal to discriminate based on sex, religion, disability, or sexual orientation, regardless of one's personal beliefs. Being drunk, obese, or sketchy are not legally protected classes. I agree with Bree's earlier post: "While I think that was a lot of money, maybe it'll fix stupid." It's unfortunate that they believe the law does not apply to them, but they did this to themselves.
Sexual orientation is not a legally protected class in most places. People have fought and are fighting that also: Gay-rights measures fail in Hutch, Salina | The Wichita Eagle The Wichita Eagle and also in other states. If not for the paranoia and flaunting it, homosexuals wouldn't feel so discriminated against in the first place.

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Originally Posted by mag32gie View Post
Personally I want my grandchildren to grow up in a world where "marriage" is about a man and a woman joining together to love each other and have children. I don't want them getting all messed up believing some store bought idea of a same sex "marriage" being anything close to the union God intended for a man and a woman. It is not natural.

Hey, isn't everybody about "natural" these days? How about putting some fake ingredients in your dinner tonight. Or some fake "honey" from China in your homemade cake?

The baker should follow his heart, sad to say but his "rights" have been violated.

I think it is wrong, unfair and get ready for transgender bathrooms.
Your post is worth repeating and know that the majority of people agree with you. You won't find it here because "gay threads" are constantly being started by a small group that provide support for one another. Most people are not brave enough to post in these threads because they will accuse you of: being a hater or homophobe (yes, those words didn't used to exist and really aren't words), say you are closeted homosexual and jealous of their "action", compare homosexuality to being black (I'm not black but I am SO sick of that and shows extreme ignorance) or some other totally off base remark meant to drive you out of the thread.

We have "marriage" and "gay marriage" and it will always be referred to in that way. A lot of parents are now homeschooling and numbers grow all the time especially among those of faith.

If you aren't aware, there is a precise agenda: The homosexual propaganda campaign in America's media From what I understand, the agenda is heavily funded by the porn industry.

This 1 to 2% of the population is attempting to normalize and moralize their sexual behavior by destroying anyone that believes what they are doing is sinful, abnormal or unnatural. Homosexuality was considered a mental illness, one of the criteria was paranoia and that, of course, isn't surprising. They had several shout outs disrupting meeting/conventions of mental health professionals until homosexuality was removed from being a mental illness: http://www.behaviorismandmentalhealt...hat-went-away/ Along the lines of a child throwing a temper tantrum and holding their breath until they get what they want. I'll let them pass out just like I would if one of the kids tired that!
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