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Old 07-09-2015, 02:12 PM
 
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yet no one is even getting demoted over this, much less fired?

OPM hack hit over 25 million people | TheHill
The agency at the center of the likely largest-ever government data breach announced Thursday that more than 25 million people have had their personal information stolen.

The revelation brings to a close more than a month of speculation over the total size of the breach, which included two separate intrusions at the Office of Personnel Management (OPM).

Initially, the OPM said in early June that 4.2 million current and former federal workers’ personnel files had been taken by cyber thieves. A week later, officials disclosed another, more serious, breach of the OPM’s data center that houses background investigation files on those seeking security clearances.
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:29 PM
 
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I'm not ready to be outraged yet.

Is this a case of lax security? Or is it a case of hackers being ahead of the curve?
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:33 PM
 
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I'm not ready to be outraged yet.

Is this a case of lax security? Or is it a case of hackers being ahead of the curve?
Lax security obviously. They were hit twice.
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Old 07-10-2015, 01:44 PM
 
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OPM director Katherine Archuleta resigns in wake of data breach | Fox News

there's one down..
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Old 07-10-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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Ahhh, another affirmative action quota hire bites the dust. Incompetent *$&% had no right to be where she was and many people have become victims because of it.
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Old 07-10-2015, 04:26 PM
 
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I'm not ready to be outraged yet.

Is this a case of lax security? Or is it a case of hackers being ahead of the curve?
Mixture of both but a bit more is on the OPM's plate.

Federal government recently spent *tens of billions* IIRC to upgrade security for Internet/online/computer systems. That most always translates into some persons made quite a lot of money (government contractors and others) for not the best work.

It doesn't matter if we are talking about business or home computer/Internet use, the basics of security are the same;

create long passwords with a mixture of numbers, characters and letters

do not have a password that spells out a noun, is a birthdate or some equally simple thing to guess

do not write passwords down/store on, in or near your device

avoid visiting certain types of websites (most notably porn)

do not click/open unfamiliar email links or files

Investigations have found federal employees, contractors and others just have a very hard time following these basic steps. One hacker gained entry into a system because the password was *PASSWORD*. In the OPM instance a contractor lost or had his laptop stolen and his password was contained either on the system or with the device IIRC. Hackers used that "permission" to gain entry into the system then go deeper. Worse because the password was legitimate and never changed (which any idiot would do when the device was stolen/lost) it was not deactivated/changed.

Granted some of the largest billion dollar/multinational corporations who presumably have the best and brightest doing their security are hacked, but it does seem as if the federal government employs/grants access to its systems persons who have the Internet skills of a bag of rocks.
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Old 07-10-2015, 04:32 PM
 
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Ahhh, another affirmative action quota hire bites the dust. Incompetent *$&% had no right to be where she was and many people have become victims because of it.
Yeah I am totally sure she was the person who worked on this, and caused this vulnerability.
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Old 07-10-2015, 04:50 PM
 
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Yeah I am totally sure she was the person who worked on this, and caused this vulnerability.
A fish rots from the head down. While the woman may or may not have been directly responsible blame ultimately lies with whoever is running the show.

There should have been established procedures and so forth in terms of security when a laptop or whatever device is reported stolen/lost and that should have included shutting down the password associated with said employee.

A good friend contacted her bank's telephone customer service when she noticed when trying to log in windows kept popping up asking for "odd" information. CS rep told her the computer was compromised and at once shut down all Internet access to the account. Bank further instructed her by certified letter and telephone that her computer had to be "professionally" cleaned and certified virus/malware free. That information was to be placed on a notarized letter and brought to her branch in person. Then and only then (and still at the bank's discretion) would they reinstate Internet access.

This was all done but the woman still had to sign documents confirming her computer was "virus/malware free", and basically she would release/hold the bank blameless if it turned out that was not true and there were any losses.

That is how you handle things.

Federal government at all branches including the military has a long history of contractors or employees losing or having laptops/devices stolen loaded with important data including personal information of other persons. The information is rarely encrypted/password protected and in many instances the passwords are in the same case as the device. Often the theft/loss is not reported for days or weeks after the event as well.
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Old 07-10-2015, 05:00 PM
 
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They hacked all the personal info of people who got security clearances.

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The vast majority of those affected — 21.5 million people — were included in an OPM repository of security clearance files, officials said...
Hacks of OPM databases compromised 22.1 million people, federal authorities say - The Washington Post

Think about the implications.
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Old 07-10-2015, 05:04 PM
 
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They hacked all the personal info of people who got security clearances.



Hacks of OPM databases compromised 22.1 million people, federal authorities say - The Washington Post

Think about the implications.
People have and are continuing to do so. It is Obama, his administration and a few others that are trying to tamp things down. They cannot even get notification to affected individuals right because the hackers have gotten to those messages as well.

If this were fifty or so years ago at the height of the Cold War we likely would have seen a different response.

Basically the bull is out of the barn, you cannot "secure" >20 million Social Security numbers/personal data. The effects of this hack will be felt for decades.
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