Poll: Was what Donald Trump said about illegal aliens from Mexico true or was it not true? (borders, illegals)

[Ceece]

It's not entirely false. The first crime is entering the country and living/working here isn't it? It's illegal. Illegal = crime. Or at least in principle. The problem with the US is we don't enforce the laws we have then gripe about the problems we face. We are stupid.

[TheWiseWino]

Originally Posted by Packard fan

Agreed tho the MSM is worse by calling illegal aliens "undocumented immigrants" which is a straight up lie. To me; an alien who's undocumented is "legal" but either lost his papers or just doesn't have them with him.

Well, "illegally" entering the country is not a crime so the whole "illegal" argument sort of falls flat.

[Informed Info]

Originally Posted by hothulamaui

no it really wasn't. he should of made it clear, not lump everyone into one pile.

It really was.

The problem isn't with LEGAL immigrants from Mexico.

[Ih2puo]

Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated

It was already confirmed to be false. Illegals commit less crimes than citizens.

Link.

Not one that groups illegals with legal immigrants.

[Informed Info]

Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated

It was already confirmed to be false. Illegals commit less crimes than citizens.

Who cares?

Illegals shouldn't be HERE and able to commit any crimes.

[michiganmoon]

Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated

It was already confirmed to be false. Illegals commit less crimes than citizens.

That study focused a lot on perception and ignored a lot of government data.



There is a lot of hard data like those found guilty of murder, those sentenced for violent crime and etc... 25% of the prison population are illegal immigrants.

And the truth is hard to get at, as most FBI most wanted fugitives are illegal aliens, but they perhaps have an easier time alluding the police due to their status. Etc.


Immigration and Crime: Assessing a Conflicted Issue | Center for Immigration Studies

I think most immigrants (legal and illegal) come here to better their lives and are good people. However, I don't put a lot of stock in the recent study that looks at perceptions of population sizes and ignores court and prison statistics.

"An FBI crime study also shows heavy illegal alien involvement in criminal activity revealed these statistics:

75 percent of those on the most wanted criminals list in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.
One quarter of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals, as are more than 40 percent of all inmates in Arizona and 48 percent in New Mexico jails.
Over 53 percent of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona, and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.
63 percent of cited drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that number, 97 percent are illegal aliens. 66 percent of cited drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66 percent, 98 percent are illegal aliens."

Etc...

Peruse the hard data and it seems fair to say that this certainly isn't cut and dry.

It does seem fair to say that our police, prisons, and judicial system needs a lot of extra resources ($$$$$) to deal with illegal immigration.

[Oldglory]

Originally Posted by TheWiseWino

Well, "illegally" entering the country is not a crime so the whole "illegal" argument sort of falls flat.

Entering our country illegally is a violation of our immigration laws and subject to deportation. I don't care what you want to call it or not call it. Being deported and returning is a felony and many of them do that numerous times.

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by Sawdustmaker

Who cares?

Illegals shouldn't be HERE and able to commit any crimes.

Anyone is able to commit a crime, legally here or illegally here.

[Oldglory]

Originally Posted by hothulamaui

no it really wasn't. he should of made it clear, not lump everyone into one pile.

The remarks he added to it made it clear that he was talking about illegal aliens not legal immigrants. By the way, you defenders of illegal aliens lump immigrants and illegal aliens into one group all the time. Now all of a sudden it's objectionable when someone else "supposedly" does it?

[Packard fan]

Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated

It was already confirmed to be false. Illegals commit less crimes than citizens.

Let's see: ID theft, fake SSN's and so on are also crimes so I'd say illegal aliens commit MORE crimes than Americans.