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Old 07-13-2015, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Johnson Creek,WI
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Iraq isnt ours to control. Obama is no innocent either, he just hasnt dropped enough bombs to your liking.
Iraq had been stabilized. Obama decided he had to throw the rug out from under them and caused this cluster. To do what he did is unconscionable IF you believe he didn't want a Middle East in chaos. He does however and is no doubt pleased.
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Old 07-13-2015, 06:25 PM
 
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Generally yes, though not as far as you most times.
In other words, you're for a hawkish foreign policy.
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Iraq had been stabilized. Obama decided he had to throw the rug out from under them and caused this cluster. To do what he did is unconscionable IF you believe he didn't want a Middle East in chaos. He does however and is no doubt pleased.
Iraq had never been stabilized. It never happened.

Obama threw the rug out from under them? Good. The American people didn't want anymore of their tax money spent in Iraq anymore.

Moreover, i don't care if the Middle East is in chaos, and neither do most other Americans. I just want the oil. As long as the chaos doesn't disturb that, who cares.
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Old 07-13-2015, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Houston
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If you really wish to curtail our misadventures overseas you have two choices Rand and Bernie. I stand with Rand.
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Old 07-13-2015, 06:36 PM
 
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If you really wish to curtail our misadventures overseas you have two choices Rand and Bernie. I stand with Rand.
Rand is a no can do. He's a member of the Republican Party. Plus he said that an attack on Israel is an attack on this country. That's a disqualifier that can't be overlooked.

Bernie will get my vote should he be on the ballot in the primary.

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Old 07-13-2015, 06:44 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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In other words, you're for a hawkish foreign policy.


Iraq had never been stabilized. It never happened.

Obama threw the rug out from under them? Good. The American people didn't want anymore of their tax money spent in Iraq anymore.

Moreover, i don't care if the Middle East is in chaos, and neither do most other Americans. I just want the oil. As long as the chaos doesn't disturb that, who cares.
Believe it or not, their are more than two positions to take on foreign policy.

Life is more than black and white.
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Old 07-13-2015, 06:50 PM
 
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Believe it or not, their are more than two positions to take on foreign policy.

Life is more than black and white.
I'm not interested in the color spectrum.
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Old 07-13-2015, 07:00 PM
 
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I'd say Obama is pretty hated in middle east and worse he is not respected.
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Old 07-13-2015, 07:56 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I'm not interested in the color spectrum.
That tells me a lot about you.
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Old 07-13-2015, 08:06 PM
 
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I'd say Obama is pretty hated in middle east and worse he is not respected.
So. What's wrong with being hated in the Middle East? If he was beloved, then you'd accuse him of licking Muslim boots.

Of course, you're already part of the cadre that does that. This pretty much means that you don't really know what you're talking about. One day this, next day that.

As to not being respected....see any shoes come flying at him lately like they did when the dude you voted for had to duck twice?
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That tells me a lot about you.
Meh...who cares.
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Old 07-13-2015, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The Bush Adminstration had Iraq under Control. I was Obama who has destabilized the region from pulling all troops out and leading behind. Obama has not done anything aggressive in dealing with ISA (which he and Clinton created)

Obama and Clinton is scared of Putin and Putin in return has no respect for the Obama Adminstration.

The Bigger question that should be asked, is "What will the President and Kerry do to right the course.
Obama is making Bad Deals and wants to by pass congress to approve any peace with Iraq, Obama sound like PM Chamberland from WW2 dealing with the NAZIS.

Clinton has no reguard for National security and has flopped in Immigration.

Instead of throwing stones you may consider your party, The DNC.

Can we really afford anther 4 years of DNC Polies!
All in, the U.S. spent about $1 Trillion a year, each year on Iraq, when interest on incremental debt and veteran benefits are included in the cost. Are you willing to pay a flat War Tax indefinitely to fund a continued presence in Iraq?

Have you enlisted or encouraged your children to do so?
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