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Old 07-23-2015, 01:03 PM
 
Location: CO
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Haaretz would sell its own people out to make a pact with ISIS, no thank you.

I seriously careless about the opinions of individuals. All that matters is that Iran's quest for a nuclear program involves their genocidal threats to Israel. Everything else is completely irreverent.
Says the ongoing poster of 1 individual - Bibi.

All while completely ignoring comments from within Israel that support the deal.
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Old 07-23-2015, 01:35 PM
 
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Did someone mention bias?


Since you don't like J Street, maybe Haaretz?

Why you can be pro-Israel and still support the Iran deal

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You can't use Haaretz neither as it is a left wing anti-Israel hate newspaper.
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Old 07-23-2015, 01:52 PM
 
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As I've said throughout, not everyone in Israel shares your paranoia.
Ami Ayalon doesn't hold much merits within Israel. He is not that important and would say anything if it is against Bibi. After all he was part of the party that lost to Bibi this past election.
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Old 07-23-2015, 02:03 PM
 
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You can't use Haaretz neither as it is a left wing anti-Israel hate newspaper.
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Ami Ayalon doesn't hold much merits within Israel. He is not that important and would say anything if it is against Bibi. After all he was part of the party that lost to Bibi this past election.
I get it.

Easier to attack the sources since they don't fit into the paranoid narrative.

Interesting that no one will actually speak to the quotes themselves.

You know - from people within Israel that aren't Bibi.

Israeli Validators for the Iran Agreement


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[b]“I am sure the deal that was signed is preferable to the current situation because it delays Iran's ability to develop a nuclear bomb by at least 15 years and in practice ends its nuclear aspirations.â€
[/B(]Uzi Even: Former lead scientist at Israel’s Dimona nuclear reactor)
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Old 07-23-2015, 02:07 PM
 
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I get it.

Easier to attack the sources since they don't fit into the paranoid narrative.

Interesting that no one will actually speak to the quotes themselves.

You know - from people within Israel that aren't Bibi.

Israeli Validators for the Iran Agreement
I already stated his quotes doesn't mean anything within Israel. What don't you understand? You post quotes about a 70 year old dude who isn't even important. Its easier to post quotes from an unimportant person. Any more liberal sites?
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Old 07-23-2015, 02:11 PM
 
Location: CO
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I already stated his quotes doesn't mean anything within Israel. What don't you understand? You post quotes about a 70 year old dude who isn't even important. Its easier to post quotes from an unimportant person who nothing but an opinion.
If you'd bothered to actually...read.

You would notice his quote is but one of many.

"Doesn't mean anything within Israel" doesn't really hold water either.

They're opinions on the Iranian deal. Much like those expressed here.

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Old 07-23-2015, 02:20 PM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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Says the ongoing poster of 1 individual - Bibi.

All while completely ignoring comments from within Israel that support the deal.


Much of Israeli intelligence actually considers Israel to be in a safer position with this deal as oppose to without it (which is the truth). The reason that Bibi hates this deal is for a few different reasons:

1) he has in interest in a long term standoff with Iran, and hopes to maintain Israels status as the only nuclear power in the region
2) he now has nothing (absolutely nothing) to show for his behavior and string pulling over the past several months (the non-US negotiating countries barely give him the time of day as is)
3) this is the most important: this deal means a potential re-balance of power in the region. Iran will produce a greater GDP than Israel and most other countries in the region, and could become very influential. There is great opportunity for the US (provided the bat **** crazy tea party types don't take over) to exploit this to our interest. Bibi can't stomach the thought of Israel becoming one of key US allies in the region rather than its sole ally.
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Old 07-23-2015, 02:21 PM
 
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If you'd bothered to actually...read.

You would notice his quote is but one of many.

"Doesn't mean anything within Israel" doesn't really hold water either.

Their opinions on the Iranian deal. Much like those expressed here.
Another liberal bs site. Actually it does hold water because you quoted a guy with a clear agenda from an agenda site. Their opinions on the Iranian deal is irrelevant as again they don't speak for anyone but themselves. Lastly no one stated that 100% of everyone agrees with Bibi statement but the majority does. Congrats you found about 15 people that disagrees
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Old 07-23-2015, 02:31 PM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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Another liberal bs site. Actually it does hold water because you quoted a guy with a clear agenda from an agenda site. Their opinions on the Iranian deal is irrelevant as again they don't speak for anyone but themselves. Lastly no one stated that 100% of everyone agrees with Bibi statement but the majority does. Congrats you found about 15 people that disagrees

But the majority (in fact all) of western countries disagree with Israel on this one. ALL of the negotiating parties have a very different view than him. Ask yourself: who do you trust on this? The US, China, Russia, France, Germany and the United Kingdom - all working together and all agreed, or the one outlier - Bibi?

Pretty straight forward..
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Old 07-23-2015, 02:31 PM
 
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Another liberal bs site.
Again - attacking the site rather than addressing the quotes.
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Actually it does hold water because you quoted a guy with a clear agenda from an agenda site.
They're actual quotes from actual people.
I doubt 20 different links would've changed your mind much.
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Their opinions on the Iranian deal is irrelevant as again they don't speak for anyone but themselves.
That's usually how opinions work.
Just so you know.
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Lastly no one stated that 100% of everyone agrees with Bibi statement but the majority does.
You don't like my links.
Let's see yours.
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Congrats you found about 15 people that disagrees
Yes. 15 people were quoted.
Many more aren't Bibibots.
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