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First sentence of the 14th amendment:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
Laws were introduced to limit the 2nd amendment, the same can be done and SHOULD be done for the 14th because it was never intended to include illegals.
Constitutional conventions in the US are generally looked at with dire skepticism. People are paranoid that they'll amend an important right to 'we the people' in the process ... especially if dealing with broad rights such as what the 14th amendment provides.
But hey, we have a few people in congress who want to add an amendment in conflict to the 14th amendment (the so called marriage is between a man and a woman theory). So, who knows.
The House Republicans did just recently. Think the Dems will vote for it? I think you know the answer to that.
The clue is "AND" subject to the jurisdiction. Illegal alien parents nor their offspring born here are subject to our full jurisdiction. They are subject to the jurisdiction of their homeland.
I think removing the automatic birthright citizenship via a new amendment to the constitution would be the key to achieving comprehensive immigration reform. Those on the right and those of us in the middle who would like to see this occur, would support it and those on the left could get concessions via additional legislation to acquire citizenship status or an amnesty program for current illegal immigrants who either join the military or attend and graduate from a 4 year college/university.
I feel having at least one parent be a legal resident or citizen would be sufficient.
Nope, no amnesty and it isn't "reform". Don't need those that violated our immigration laws in our military either or paying for their college here. Currently, illegal aliens can't join our military and that should remain so.
The last part I agree with however, I think at least one parent should have to be a citizen.
The US is unique in many ways. It has the death penalty and no universal healthcare but I don't see the right pointing at other countries and saying we have to be more like them.
if you'd like to start a new thread to discuss other facts about the US, go right ahead. No need to troll.
What about "birther" tourists - wealthy people (often from China) who fly to the U.S. to give birth?
Since the standard seems to be that if you are born in the United States, and your parents were merely "passing through," you would be considered a U.S. citizen. Changing that standard is going to be very difficult.
The US is unique in many ways. It has the death penalty and no universal healthcare but I don't see the right pointing at other countries and saying we have to be more like them.
It's not about being more like other countries. It's about what our Constitution intended in regards to children born here from illegal alien countries. Factor in the mockery it makes of our citizenship and all the costs ensued from allowing this PC practice and the fact that it draws more illegal aliens here and there is enough reason to end it while leaving out what other countries do in our decision. Most countries don't allow it anyway. We should follow what a minority of countries do?
Laws were introduced to limit the 2nd amendment, the same can be done and SHOULD be done for the 14th because it was never intended to include illegals.
What about "birther" tourists - wealthy people (often from China) who fly to the U.S. to give birth?
Since the standard seems to be that if you are born in the United States, and your parents were merely "passing through," you would be considered a U.S. citizen. Changing that standard is going to be very difficult.
Their offspring are not citizens of our country anymore that those who cross our border illegally are. Why would that be difficult to change?
Their offspring are not citizens of our country anymore that those who cross our border illegally are. Why would that be difficult to change?
Because you are changing precedent.
Plus it brings up a whole host of questions. Do people born here prior to the new amendment get to stay citizens? Where do we draw the line?
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