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Old 07-28-2015, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Gone
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A lot of people on City-Data, and in America in general, are completely against welfare of all kinds, including for people with disabilities and dependent children whose parents are too poor.

What do you suggest be done with them? Throw them all in privatized jails? Let them beg on the street (but then again, you want to criminalize begging?) Force them to live on "reservations"?

I just don't see a conservative solution to poverty. You could just tell them to "go get a job", but in 2015 those jobs don't even exist! And people cannot survive on pennies an hour. It sounds to me like people who want to abolish welfare are basically asking for mass death and starvation, just like the Irish potato famine. I think there is a Malthusian agenda here.
Hopefully when those that cannot get any assistance get desperate enough to feed their family and keep a roof over their head they will go to a good conservative area full of right-winger my-money A-holes and stick a gun in their face and take their money. In Fact you can count on it, when there are enough have nots and far too few haves the have nots will destroy the haves, read your history or pay the price for ignoring it.

 
Old 07-29-2015, 05:00 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Wow, you get some nonsense going and you dont let go of it. In fact you copy nd paste it over and over.

Sniff test time...

the bottom 80% own 7% of the nations financial wealth. The top 1%? own 40% of it.
How does that change the fact that American workers and retirees have $24 Trillion invested in the stock market, etc., for retirement? How do you think all those public employee pensions get paid, when those workers don't even contribute 1/10 of their pension's worth? Magic? /SMH
 
Old 07-29-2015, 05:52 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Bruce Rauner, at the time chairman of the Chicago-based private equity firm GTCR, donated $525,000 to the Institute between 2008 and 2013.[20][15][21]

Elected Illinois Governor in 2014, Bruce Rauner hired three Institute staff members into his new administration.[35][36]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_Policy_Institute

Definitely an unbiased, well researched response.
Pblic employee pensions are public data. Anyone can look up the info. Here's a useful document and a useful site, so you can see what I mean...

In this particular document, pay close attention to the last column: "% Of Lifetime Estimate Paid by Employee":
http://dig.abclocal.go.com/wls/docum...20pensions.pdf

And:

Pension Database

With public employees typically contributing less than 10% (and frequently less than 5%) of their estimated pension's value, public pension funds NEED corporate profits, etc., to fund a significant amount of the difference. It's either that, or ding the taxpayers for the entire difference.
 
Old 07-29-2015, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Planet Earth, Milky Way
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Liberals believe in evolution. They also believe in animal rights. Yet they also support abortion. What hypocrisy of the distorted frontal lobe.
 
Old 07-29-2015, 07:24 AM
 
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Liberals believe in evolution. They also believe in animal rights. Yet they also support abortion. What hypocrisy of the distorted frontal lobe.
Do you work in abortion in every thread?

Mick
 
Old 07-29-2015, 07:28 AM
 
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Liberals believe in evolution. They also believe in animal rights. Yet they also support abortion. What hypocrisy of the distorted frontal lobe.
They believe in evolution, but don't want it to play out.

I've frequently thought they must have frontal lobe deficiencies. Or at the very least, significant deficiencies in reasoning and logic.
 
Old 07-29-2015, 07:33 AM
 
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They believe in evolution, but don't want it to play out.

I've frequently thought they must have frontal lobe deficiencies. Or at the very least, significant deficiencies in reasoning and logic.
Evolution-another unproven theory that they are running with. Huge gaps in the evolution chains that they are making assumptions on.
 
Old 07-29-2015, 09:20 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Informed is just being difficult, he always resorts to that old just write a check to the treasury line.
Treasury will not accept such a payment, nor apply it to a specific GL account, so it's a completely nonsensical argument designed only to be unanswerable. These gifts by law may only be applied to deficit reduction.
Bless her heart, she's really pushing that dishonest logical fallacy.
 
Old 07-29-2015, 09:22 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Evolution-another unproven theory that they are running with. Huge gaps in the evolution chains that they are making assumptions on.
There are no huge gaps. Our understanding of genetics solved that.
 
Old 07-29-2015, 09:24 AM
 
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YOU made it an either/or situation. YOU said you paid zero extra to the U.S. Treasury and instead donated to private charities.
Nope. You created the logical fallacy in order to deflect and/or you simply resort to dishonest tactics. You had to lie and put words in my mouth.
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