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1, get rid of environmentalists, liberals and communists in government.
2.abolish NAFTA, and bring back manufacturing.
3. close the borders ,till we are out of debt .
4. require all citizens able bodied, to participate with border patrol minimum 6 months
and after all have participated, all over 18, must participate. for a designated length of time for citizen ship and the right to vote.
5. reinstate the Civilian Conservation Corps ,
6. Remove the UN out of the country preferably with bulldozers .
7. Secure the constitution and remove all those that oppose it .
Welfare Demographics:
Percent of recipients who are white: 38.8 %
Percent of recipients who are black: 39.8 %
Percent of recipients who are Hispanic: 15.7 %
Percent of recipients who are Asian: 2.4 %
Percent of recipients who are Other: 3.3 %
Interesting, despite not speka any engrish. Asians and Hispanics don't depend on Welfare like the colored groups.
What does that response have to do with my question: So then why do people of the same income and education levels and living in the same geographic location but NOT getting food stamps have a much lower obesity rate than those who get food stamps?
A lot of people on City-Data, and in America in general, are completely against welfare of all kinds, including for people with disabilities and dependent children whose parents are too poor.
Really? "A lot of people?" Do you have some statistical data to prove this? How many are "a lot of people?"
I don't think your question needs an answer, because the vast majority of people do not believe that.
If we had a full time Economy with Full time Jobs with benefits we would not be having this conversation. This question should be posed to Obama and the Democratic polices of the last 7 years. This and Adminstration demonizes success and encourages to be dependent on big brother.
What is more of a problem Clinton and the DNC Line wants a continues of Obama Polices.
What does that response have to do with my question: So then why do people of the same income and education levels and living in the same geographic location but NOT getting food stamps have a much lower obesity rate than those who get food stamps?
We don't know.... Unless you provide a link to something conclusive.
We don't know.... Unless you provide a link to something conclusive.
I already did. The USDA OIG states that 59% of food stamp families are getting duplicate benefits for the exact same meals by simultaneously participating in 2 or more public assistance free food programs:
"...FNS commissioned a study that detailed the extent of multiple participation in four major FNS programs—SNAP, WIC, SBP, and NSLP—for a 4-month period in 2006. The study reported that among the families that participated in at least one of the four major programs, about 41 percent participated in only one, and 59 participated in two or more programs."
59% of families participating in a major FNS public assistance food program participate in 2 or more programs simultaneously, stacking the duplication of free (for them) public assistance food benefits.
Why do they need 2 or more of the exact same meals each day?
Because many are getting duplicate benefits for the exact same meals, are therefore overeating and becoming obese, and that's destroying their health. How can anyone in good conscience, supprt that? http://www.usda.gov/oig/webdocs/27001-0001-10.pdf
74% of households receiving SNAP benefits have children. The fact that many of those food stamp recipients may be getting overlapping and duplicate free food benefits that supply up to158% of recommended daily nutrition could very well explain why there's such a disproportionately high rate of obesity among those who receive food stamps.
First: no one "in good conscience" generally supports problems that can be corrected. As I pointed out before, there is a good amount of effort to address proper diet and/or health habits of people supported by FNS programs, but much like the fight to reduce smoking, there is no simple or absolute solution to these sorts of problems.
Second, this issue and complaint reminds me of how conservatives are so very understanding of collateral damage that comes of war, for example, yet otherwise intolerant or somehow not able to understand the same when it comes to other government efforts. Obviously there is no way to fight a war without unintended collateral damage. Conservatives get that very easily when it comes to war on the battlefield, but somehow when it comes to fighting other wars, like on poverty or drugs or hunger..., any rather less-than-perfect scenario is somehow not supportable, "unconscionable." That SNAP recipients might also have children at school getting lunches and that this might somehow be cause of higher incidents of obesity hardly deserves the time devoted even here in this thread (or please prove this is a problem worthy of further consideration).
Third: obesity is caused by a good many factors and the last time I checked, having too much food available to eat was not one of them. Unless the thought is that somehow the amount of food be regulated to the point that someone CANNOT over eat, well that takes us beyond sound reason and into the realm of utter dream land. Let's reduce the supply of food to FORCE weight loss? Ridiculous!
Forth: among the causes of obesity are the propensity to eat too much and/or too frequently -- there is an important difference, not the same as having too much food available. If obesity were caused by having more food available than is really needed, just about ALL Americans would be obese! Think about it! Genetics, slow metabolism, physical inactivity, medications and psychological factors are other primary causes of obesity having little to do with whether there is an extra sandwich available in the house. Someone with an obesity problem is surely not cured of that problem by some small reduction of a lunch portion here and there! I mean really, you could probably cut the food stamps in half and loose your obesity battle with one nice bucket of ice cream while watching one movie! Not that I have the precise numbers to justify this, but apparently no one here is concerned with precise justifications for these sorts of notions.
Lastly, if there were proof that being a recipient of food stamps causes or promotes obesity (and so far it seems there is no such proof), I would consider the psychological factors very carefully, because I can easily see that someone having to use food stamps at the grocery store as compared to someone who doesn't may very well be dealing with psychological factors that can be a cause for obesity.
[quote=PedroMartinez;40637457]Well, let's look at this closer.
As you can clearly see, the group that would be impacted the greatest would be blacks, followed by Hispanics and then whites and finally Asians.
Need to take a much better closer look than that!
The impact of removing support for the needy, (poor, hungry, elderly, etc.), goes a great deal further than food off the table for those counted in these statistics. The impact goes far and wide and affects all of us! Have a look at what many a third World country looks like on the streets, or even here where living conditions approach poverty levels (the point at which Americans begin to qualify for such government assistance). Who doesn't have a relative or friend or neighbor that has had to utilize such benefits at some point. Less obvious, who doesn't know someone who draws income from the flow of those benefits, like your neighborhood grocery store, or landlord, or phone company -- where every penny of those benefits is spent!
"Let's not lose sight of the forest for the trees!"
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