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We already spend more money on trying to find fraud than we pay out in benefits. Trying to "weed out" the cheaters will only result in destroying the whole system IMO, or at least making it far more inefficient and embarrassing for people to have to depend on.
??? Source? Why would removing cheaters destroy the whole system? Why is making it embarrassing to ask for help a bad thing? A little of humility can go a long way to improve ones character.
Put them in a factory. Can do away with half those issues you mentioned.
What factories? Ones that provide jobs? Oh wait! Those places dont exist any mire. All those jobs are in China, India, and even Lesotho. Maybe the government should create slave labor factories, like they had in WWII Germany, where currently unemployed could make munitions and clothing for our military.
You also forgot to bring up that old right wing saw about unemployed people starting their own businesses. Because everyone knows that once you start a business, the money just comes rolling in, and the problem is solved ...
I don't know why you couldn't just simply provide it again
I posted 2 links to the original post in which I posted that exact same link in response to you. Why were you unable to read the post and find the links?
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The report draws from a survey done between 2007 & 2010 (not 2015).
The report was released in May of 2015. If you can get the federal government to move more quickly on releasing more recent info, be my guest. Feel free to post any of their newer releases.
Until then, we'll have to go on the info the USDA and the USDA OIG has provided:
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"FNS [Food and Nutrition Service] may be duplicating its efforts by providing total benefits that exceed 100 percent of daily nutritional needs to program participants when households and/or individuals participate in more than one of FNS’ nutrition programs simultaneously. For instance, FNS programs such as SNAP, NSLP [National School Lunch Program], and SBP [School Breakfast Program] are structured to provide up to 100 percent, 33 percent, and 25 percent of the recommended daily nutrition, respectively."
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"FNS officials stated that the agency’s program statutes and regulations are designed so that eligible people can generally participate in more than one program simultaneously. For example, children that are SNAP clients are also eligible to enroll in the School Breakfast and Lunch Programs. These children may reside in a household where the mother is also eligible to participate in WIC.
...FNS commissioned a study that detailed the extent of multiple participation in four major FNS programs—SNAP, WIC, SBP, and NSLP—for a 4-month period in 2006. The study reported that among the families that participated in at least one of the four major programs, about 41 percent participated in only one, and59 [percent] participated in two or more programs."
As in move on? Yes! A release date is a little different than the actual dates of the survey being reported, and it seems that nothing else in these comments is being read or considered, so maybe we should all feel free -- encouraged -- to post something a little more current, relevant and maybe even logically conclusive.
I would copy/paste some of the more recent information and highlights from this update, but since it seems my efforts along those lines have largely gone wasted, I leave it for anyone interested to read through this link and take from it as they may. Careful to mind your confirmation bias tendencies...
What we know now is that 59% of families on food stamps simultaneously get benefits from 2 or more major free food programs for the exact same daily meals, and that 44% of adult food stamp recipients are obese. Not just overweight... obese. Along with all of the health problems that are associated and/or worsened by obesity.
Good for you. Now tell us all why giving food stamp recipients MORE than what that release indicates is necessary for their health and well-being, resulting in their grossly disproportionate obesity rate, is beneficial to anyone.
What we know now is that 59% of families on food stamps simultaneously get benefits from 2 or more major free food programs for the exact same daily meals, and that 44% of adult food stamp recipients are obese. Not just overweight... obese. Along with all of the health problems that are associated and/or worsened by obesity.
Good for you. Now tell us all why giving food stamp recipients MORE than what that release indicates is necessary for their health and well-being, resulting in their grossly disproportionate obesity rate, is beneficial to anyone.
LOLOL. You got nothing. You still haven't been to find anyone else to corroborate your "research". It should be VERY easy to do it.... but yet you can't..... : think:
"Based on these findings, the Food Stamp Program may have a significant impact on America’s obesity rate.
...Even after the various controls, the link between food stamp use and higher weight remained clear
...Results showed BMI increased over all three periods, but increased the most when participants were on food stamps."
NO it doesn't, otherwise, you'd link the exact words from the article..... But you can't do that.... can you? :rol leyes:
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Out of those who are income eligible and have the same education level and residential area, only those who receive food stamps have the much higher obesity rate.
Given that known fact and the link between food stamp use and the higher obesity rate established in the study, why are we giving 59% of food stamp families duplicate benefits for the same daily meals to double, triple, or even quadruple down on bad food choices?
Nope, that's your own words. Keep trying if you must....
NO it doesn't, otherwise, you'd link the exact words from the article..... But you can't do that.... can you? :rol leyes:
Nope, that's your own words. Keep trying if you must....
Give it up, some posters will not accept reality. They will turn it into what they desperately want to believe no matter how wrong they are. I've pointed out repeatedly why the link and data are not what he says they are, and he just keeps trucking. The determination to ignore reality is amazing.
Nothing? How is 44% of adult food stamp recipients being obese nothing? Not just overwieght. OBESE.
Are you obese yourself? Is that why you're making excuses for the grossly disprportionate obesity rate of food stamp recipients compared to same income-earners who DON'T get food stamps?
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