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Old 07-16-2015, 12:50 PM
 
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Okay here is my simple idea of stopping all drug related problems in the United States.

1. Legalize the ownership of the plants and source products.
2. Give away seized controlled substances at welfare offices.
4. Create an controlled substances park. Where people can lite up or whatever. But they would get charged an lot of money for lighting up.
5. Give out private donations and awards for people who report drug usage.

A. The reason why drugs flow all over the United States is because it has an value.

B. If we delete this value the flow will not exist. Like how we see
flying chickens called pigeons/doves outside. Nobody will want to use the stuff.

C. We keep the fines for usage of the stuff. We make people pay for professional help. We tell non-profit organizations ( like help clinics ) to take an hike. We put people inside an of an drug zoo where they can wait out the addiction. We do not allow medicaid/medicare to support any drug clinics.


The problem with drugs in the United States is that people want to legalize it. People are being found with the substances miles away from the Mexican border getting it transported from other nations. Also people are growing the stuff in the USA all over the place obviously. Leaks from legal sources also occur.


That should slove your r-tarded drug problems.


AGAIN DELETE THE VALUE OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES AND YOU WILL NEVER HAVE TO HEAR ABOUT IT IN THE NEWS AGAIN.
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Old 07-16-2015, 12:53 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Just make it legal, pharmacies will sell the product like every other pill. Get rid of government based healthcare, make people responsible for their life choices. Problem solved.

You don't want to give out old drugs, many can be dangerous and spoiled.
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Old 07-16-2015, 01:07 PM
 
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Yes I do want to give out LEGALLY ceased, and LEGAL TO DISPENSE old/new drugs. I want people to get it in there hands so they can NO LONGER PURCHASE the product from ANYBODY at all. The value again, the value of drugs is the reason why it has been an problem. A price tag is the problem alone. Dedicating dollars in studying drugs is part of the problem as well.

HOWEVER.

the law must state YOU CAN OWN BUT YOU CANT USE. I do not care what happens to an person if they make that choice. That is there responsibilities.

Healthcare have nothing to do with this at all. Because right now people are growing this stuff in there yards or some room. They know that if the drugs have no value to anybody and YOU CAN PICK IT FROM THE GROUND AND PICK IT FROM THE PARKS. THEY KNOW THE DRUGS WILL BE USELESS.

THEY KNOW IT WILL BE USELESS TO EVERYBODY. THEY KNOW IF THEY DESTROY THE VALUE OF DRUGS. THEY KNOW IT WILL END THE MADNESS AND THE LIES.

I am tired of hearing racist idiots talk like valley girls about drug operations, and businesses from Mexico. Mexico and drugs are not an problem at all. AgAIN IT IS THE VALUE. THE VALUE







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Old 07-16-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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I say put all the users in a stadium and allow them to do what they please and televise it throughout every classroom in the country and let the kids watch these animals rape and pillage their way through the place.
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Old 07-16-2015, 01:16 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Yes I do want to give out LEGALLY ceased, and LEGAL TO DISPENSE old/new drugs. I want people to get it in there hands so they can NO LONGER PURCHASE the product from ANYBODY at all. The value again, the value of drugs is the reason why it has been an problem. A price tag is the problem alone. Dedicating dollars in studying drugs is part of the problem as well.

HOWEVER.

the law must state YOU CAN OWN BUT YOU CANT USE. I do not care what happens to an person if they make that choice. That is there responsibilities.

Healthcare have nothing to do with this at all. Because right now people are growing this stuff in there yards or some room. They know that if the drugs have no value to anybody and YOU CAN PICK IT FROM THE GROUND AND PICK IT FROM THE PARKS. THEY KNOW THE DRUGS WILL BE USELESS.

THEY KNOW IT WILL BE USELESS TO EVERYBODY. THEY KNOW IF THEY DESTROY THE VALUE OF DRUGS. THEY KNOW IT WILL END THE MADNESS AND THE LIES.

I am tired of hearing racist idiots talk like valley girls about drug operations, and businesses from Mexico. Mexico and drugs are not an problem at all. AgAIN IT IS THE VALUE. THE VALUE







DELETED THE VALUE AND WE DELETE THE PROBLEM





DELETED THE VALUE AND WE DELETE THE PROBLEM





DELETED THE VALUE AND WE DELETE THE PROBLEM
If you give out old narcotics you could kill people if ingested.

Selling various easy to make and safe drugs would reduce the value to be comparable to Advil.

Writing the law to allowing ownership but not consumption is dumb.
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Old 07-16-2015, 01:21 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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Pfizer and Merck, along with law enforcement agencies will never let that happen. They want control over what narcotics are. They have the most to lose financially for allowing that. So do other nations, because we pay them beaucoup bucks to go along with this nonsense for these types of industries.
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Old 07-16-2015, 01:24 PM
 
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Okay here is my simple idea of stopping all drug related problems in the United States.

1. Legalize the ownership of the plants and source products.
2. Give away seized controlled substances at welfare offices.
4. Create an controlled substances park. Where people can lite up or whatever. But they would get charged an lot of money for lighting up.
5. Give out private donations and awards for people who report drug usage.

A. The reason why drugs flow all over the United States is because it has an value.

B. If we delete this value the flow will not exist. Like how we see
flying chickens called pigeons/doves outside. Nobody will want to use the stuff.

C. We keep the fines for usage of the stuff. We make people pay for professional help. We tell non-profit organizations ( like help clinics ) to take an hike. We put people inside an of an drug zoo where they can wait out the addiction. We do not allow medicaid/medicare to support any drug clinics.


The problem with drugs in the United States is that people want to legalize it. People are being found with the substances miles away from the Mexican border getting it transported from other nations. Also people are growing the stuff in the USA all over the place obviously. Leaks from legal sources also occur.


That should slove your r-tarded drug problems.


AGAIN DELETE THE VALUE OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES AND YOU WILL NEVER HAVE TO HEAR ABOUT IT IN THE NEWS AGAIN.
Not even a good theory, there's demand, that's why they flow, not value. Value is what gets the criminal element involved.
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Old 07-16-2015, 01:25 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Pfizer and Merck, along with law enforcement agencies will never let that happen. They want control over what narcotics are. They have the most to lose financially for allowing that. So do other nations, because we pay them beaucoup bucks to go along with this nonsense for these types of industries.
The pharmaceuticals have the most to gain by opening up an entire market to its product that is regulated by the Rx process.

Police have plenty of other crimes to investigate, they are rarely out of work.
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Old 07-16-2015, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Not even a good theory, there's demand, that's why they flow, not value. Value is what gets the criminal element involved.
Well, removing the criminal element still solves a load of issues, so the theory itself is still quite useful.

I'm in favor of decriminalization. At the very least, possession of a substance should never carry more than a small fine if it is to be illegal. Distribution can have varying charged. If we're capable of thought (which...), we can recognize that a drug dealer is anyone who sells drugs, from the kid who sells it to his high school friends to the cartel guy selling huge amounts to various distributors. One can reasonably be considered a felony, the other cannot.

I also think we need to reevaluate how we see drugs. Mushrooms are in the category of most dangerous drugs, despite carrying few serious long term health concerns. Whereas alcohol is legal, despite being measurably more harmful. Our drug laws have no basis in science or common sense. There laws for political reasons, not safety ones and no valid justification exists for the majority of them. I don't dispute that drugs like meth or heroin have no convincing redeeming qualities, but things like LCD, marijuana or magic mushrooms are comparatively safe when you consider some of the drugs that are perfectly legal.
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Old 07-16-2015, 01:49 PM
 
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Countries that have legalized it, and provided treatment centers for those wanting help to kick it, have saved a ton of money, and dont have nearly the problems with it that we do.

Problem solved.

IE legalize everything, spend 1/10th what we do now on treatment centers.
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