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View Poll Results: Who Was More at Fault???
Sandra 32 60.38%
Police 17 32.08%
I can't choose. They are exactly equally at fault. 4 7.55%
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-22-2015, 08:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by tickyul View Post
It REALLY looks like this poor lady committed suicide, RIP!

The cop did not really handle the stop that great, probably lose his job........but can you blame him for the lady's death????
Yes. Yes I can.

The law blames a robber for murders his or her fellow robber commits in the course of their crime regardless of his or her intent.

Actions have consequences. This cops power trip resulted in the death of this woman.

Yes he is responsible for that.

 
Old 07-22-2015, 08:25 PM
mm4
 
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Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
You can state your opinion all day and its not going to change anything.

One does not have to follow an order that a police officer has not been instructed to give.

A good example is the courts saying an officer can not stop someone from filming them if they are in public despite so many trying to demand that people do just that.
That's hardly an order to stop filming them from a cam.

Like this recently ended:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_1AXTikqPM
 
Old 07-22-2015, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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When there's a stop, and the suspect hasn't yet been given the approval to be on her way, putting away the cig (and the cell phone) were reasonable demands; both are distractions, something burning in her hand at 750° F, never mind all the smoke.
That's funny. Some folks here never cease to amaze me. This isn't a Police State yet. He had no right to do what he did, based on a cheap chicken crap violation any good cop would have never acted on.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Originally Posted by DejaBlue View Post
From asking 2 police officers..because she was so agitated she could have reached out and burned the officer or threw it at him. People have done less and worse so that's a liability.

She could have threw it, he ducked and she jumped out of the car and attacked.
oh please...She might have thrown a cigarette at the cop? You talked to two cops and they said that's a reason to pull a taser on a person? I really, really doubt that.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Every traffic stop is a criminal investigation. She was a criminal. That is why she went to jail.
The Cop was the Criminal here, and will face the consequences for being a jerk and assaulting the woman.

 
Old 07-22-2015, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Originally Posted by Wanderer0101 View Post
I consider it a real honor. I always try to avoid associating with the dregs.
Yet you're a proud bootlicker that defends scum, even when his own Department won't.

You are already in the thick of the dregs, and it's people like you that promote the ever-growing Police State.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 08:33 PM
 
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I watched the news last night. Local news, I live in Houston and our expert said "If a cop ass you to put out a cigarette they CAN tell you to and you 100% SHOULD"
I don't know who your 'expert' is, but they are wrong. He had no authority to tell her to put out the cigarette, it isn't against the law to smoke. If a cop is frightened by the 'threat' of a cigarette they need to put their big boy pants on or get another job
 
Old 07-22-2015, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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It didn't result in death. Her suicide and the traffic stop are completely unrelated events.

Bull. It has everything to do with it. If the Cop acted like that, and assaulted her in her own car, for no reason except anger, then who is to say they didn't kill her in her cell. I would not trust any of them. The Cop had no business arresting her for nothing, and if she had not been in that cell, she would still be alive today. The Cop is to blame for all of this.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 08:34 PM
 
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It isn't, but kicking them is.
And what proof do you have that she kicked him? He left relevant information in his report so he's already proven himself to have the propensity to lie.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 08:38 PM
 
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I say when a man with a gun given by government stops you ;do not do anyhting stupid is first rule.
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