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Old 07-17-2015, 11:47 PM
 
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Who are desperate and delusional right wingers trying to fool? If you were to poll a hundred people and ask which party is racist, who do you think they would name?

If you were to poll a hundred people and ask which party is most inclined toward war, who do you think they would name?

If you were to poll a hundred people and ask which party would take their extremism to the point of war and extermination?

This is really what the OP is asking. The OP is trying to start a fight on the most tasteless of levels but if you really want to go there, it's your party.
And if you were to ask a random sampling of 100 Germans in 1938 the majority of them would say that Jews deserve to be rounded up and exterminated. The majority isn't necessarily right, as history has proven time and time again.

 
Old 07-17-2015, 11:47 PM
 
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Who scribbles "Socialist" and "Workers Party" on the doorbell expecting to attract anybody other than the progressive left to the porch?
As somebody said upthread, "I don't judge politicians by what they say to get power, but by what they do after gaining power."

As I apparently have to keep reminding people, Nazis gaining power and Nazis in power were two very different creatures. Once the socialist wing was done away with, with about a hundred dead Nazis leaders underlining the point, well - no more socialist nonsense.

Trade Unions? Their offices raided, their funds confiscated, their role supposedly taken over by the 'German Labour Force".
Workers' right to strike? Done away with by law. Can't have the working man getting uppity.
Equal rights for women - that's a good progressive value, right? Hell no. "Kinder, Kirche, Küche", go make some healthy, pure-race babies for the Vaterland. Took Germany much longer to bring women into wartime production, as compared to the Allies.
Internationalism - a main feature of mid-century socialism? Marx did say 'Workers of the World", yes? Not for the Nazis. Grossdeutschland was superior by definition.

The Nazis - when judged by what thy did after gaining power - were very bad at socialism.
 
Old 07-17-2015, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Hitler was an extreme right-winger:



88 is an abbreviation for "Heil Hitler". No surprise this Confederate flag-waving murderer felt a kinship with Der Fuhrer.
 
Old 07-17-2015, 11:53 PM
 
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Ethnocentrism isn't left or right.
 
Old 07-17-2015, 11:53 PM
 
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And if you were to ask a random sampling of 100 Germans in 1938 the majority of them would say that Jews deserve to be rounded up and exterminated. The majority isn't necessarily right, as history has proven time and time again.
Hey, it's your thread and your are completely objective, right? Right?
 
Old 07-17-2015, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Houston
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"The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state. Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic problem of Socialism—until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name. The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism."[Fascism] It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy, and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism.” (p.22) Ludwig von Mises
 
Old 07-17-2015, 11:58 PM
 
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Hey, it's your thread and your are completely objective, right? Right?
Yes, I am taking an unbiased approach to the subject... in a similar fashion of Barrack Hussein Obama, when he claimed in 2008 that he wasn't going to play "political games" in Washington and would work with both sides of the aisle. But my point is, when I see a flaw in logic, I need to point it out. This is necessary to keep the conversation on track.
 
Old 07-18-2015, 12:00 AM
 
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He was a national socialist.
He was neither a republican or a Democrat. He was just a racist psychopath.

Last edited by glass_of_merlot; 07-18-2015 at 12:20 AM..
 
Old 07-18-2015, 12:01 AM
 
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Yes, I am taking an unbiased approach to the subject... in a similar fashion of Barrack Hussein Obama, when he claimed in 2008 that he wasn't going to play "political games" in Washington and would work with both sides of the aisle. But my point is, when I see a flaw in logic, I need to point it out. This is necessary to keep the conversation on track.
Unbiased or not, your first post is illogical and without merit. You said you were going to look at the facts, but failed to do so.
 
Old 07-18-2015, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Ethnocentrism isn't left or right.
Which side of the political spectrum is more likely to complain (loudly) about our increasingly diverse nation? Which side tends to scapegoat minority classes as the root of our nation's ills?

You actually found positives in the Nazi ideology in an earlier post, so it shouldn't be too hard for you to come up with the answers.
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