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There is some very inaccurate information in this thread. Given the sources it's understandable. Yes, I think active duty military need to be armed. Domestic terrorists living in the United States will of course object to any and all armament of anyone who may pose a problem or interrupt their plans. Arm them, and wait.
I'm kind of split on this issue. On one hand, there are positive examples where military personnel is allowed to carry guns even when taking a short vacation and visiting home. But on another hand, should we create another class of priviledged citizens?
And also, liberals tell us, that military weapons aren't suited for our streets. So, I guess police and military has no need to carry their machine-guns either.
I think it should be allowed for active duty military to carry guns in public. I mean, everyone else can! The military people I know and the others i have met, seem so much more capable and trustworthy. I think I would feel safer! But then again, I live in LA....
And yes, after events such as Sandy Hook, walking directly toward a school while open carrying a firearm is "harassing and threatening children."
No child could feel harassed or threatened, because no child saw him standing there with a firearm on his person. Children should not be taught to fear guns, they should be taught to calmly avoid them until they are old enough to learn gun safety.
Tell me, how many school shootings can you prove that the Gun Free School Zones Act has prevented since its passage in 1990? I can point you to a list of over 200 school shootings that it did NOT prevent.
But you openly carry a weapon on school grounds where my kids are inside with nothing to protect them, and this is one concealed-carry permit holder who will risk jail time to protect his kids. Whether you agree with the law or not, anyone who violates the GFSA is not a law-abiding citizen by definition, and therefore is not a "good guy with a gun".
The GFSZA violates the 2nd Amendment.
Personally, I think that good guys with guns should be protecting our kids. We've seen dozens of examples of the carnage that occurs when bad guys with guns decide to shoot up a (gun-free) campus.
Personally, I think that good guys with guns should be protecting our kids. We've seen dozens of examples of the carnage that occurs when bad guys with guns decide to shoot up a (gun-free) campus.
No, it does not violate the 2nd amendment. The law doesn't infringe on the right to keep and bear arms; keep and bear all you want. Instead the law sets limits on how you are allowed to use public property set aside for the safety and education of children.
Similar laws prohibit carrying firearms inside a prison, which is also public property. Are you suggesting that prohibiting a random yay-hoo from wandering around in a prison yard while open-carrying an AR-15 is a violation of the 2nd amendment? Or even better, are you suggesting that not allowing convicts to open carry while actually serving time for murder is a violation of the 2nd amendment? The 2nd amendment isn't a suicide pact.
Even in the "wild west" there were "guns free zones" where people had to check their guns on entering towns or certain businesses.
I personally think modern "guns free zones" are stupid, but they are legal.
And yeah, good guys with guns should be protecting our kids. If they choose to do so, teachers and administrators should be allowed to concealed carry. If not concealed carry, then if they choose to do so there should be weapons scattered around campus locked up for use in an emergency.
No child could feel harassed or threatened, because no child saw him standing there with a firearm on his person.
How do you know this? Do you have a source? The school was on lockdown so I am sure someone felt threatened.
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Originally Posted by Slowpoke_TX
Children should not be taught to fear guns, they should be taught to calmly avoid them until they are old enough to learn gun safety.
I agree that people should not be afraid of guns, but they should fear the decision making process of some of the people that carry them. They should not believe a someone is good just because a person is carrying around an assault rifle where one is clearly not needed. They should be scared of the person that is scared enough to feel they have to carry a pacifier.
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Originally Posted by Slowpoke_TX
Tell me, how many school shootings can you prove that the Gun Free School Zones Act has prevented since its passage in 1990? I can point you to a list of over 200 school shootings that it did NOT prevent.
Yeah, that list of 200 school shootings is a problem and part of the reason the anti-gun movement in this country is growing. I have no idea how many shootings that the GFSZA has prevented, but how many school shootings have civilians armed with firearms prevented? We know they have at least caused 200...
Personally, I think that good guys with guns should be protecting our kids. We've seen dozens of examples of the carnage that occurs when bad guys with guns decide to shoot up a (gun-free) campus.
Slowpoke how do you tell the a "good guy" from a "bad guy"? I think one of my ways of telling an irresponsible person is if they are carrying an assault rifle around outside of a school and taunting the police who he is hiding behind.
There is some very inaccurate information in this thread. Given the sources it's understandable. Yes, I think active duty military need to be armed. Domestic terrorists living in the United States will of course object to any and all armament of anyone who may pose a problem or interrupt their plans. Arm them, and wait.
No, it does not violate the 2nd amendment. The law doesn't infringe on the right to keep and bear arms; keep and bear all you want.
Yes, it does violate the 2nd Amendment, by rendering the Amendment null and void on and near campus.
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Guns in the hands of military? Not a bad idea.
