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Old 07-19-2015, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Has The Left Killed The American Dream Or Is It Still Alive And Well

No. The right killed it and it is pretty dead.

You're welcome.

Who killed the American dream? - MarketWatch

Mort Zuckerman: Declining Wages Are Killing the American Dream - US News

If the "American Dream" is Truly Dead, Corporate Greed is What Killed It - Forward Progressives

Ayn Rand killed the American dream: Our free-market economy only works for the 1 percent | Economy In Crisis

Rip-Off: How Private-Sector Health Costs Are Killing the American Dream | BillMoyers.com

Ronald Reagan And His Economic Policies Killed The American Middle-Class And The American Dream. | Lean Left

 
Old 07-19-2015, 07:25 PM
 
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As much as we all like to blame Bush (and for good reason)... there's plenty of blame to go around here. Fact is that Bill Clinton signed the greatest betrayal of the middle class in our lifetimes (NAFTA- a Republican priority but signed by Clinton). And Obama wants to do the same thing with the TPP (again pushed by Republicans... but our Democratic president wants to sign it).

So while in my opinion the Republicans are MUCH worse for the middle class... we can't blame then entirely. The Neoliberal wing of the Democratic party has done their share of selling out America.
Exactly right. The middle class has been losing ground for a long time now. While corporate profits soar and Wall Street rakes it in, the median American worker's wage, adjusted for inflation, has barely budged for decades. We're working harder and longer and earning less in real dollars.

For most workers, real wages have barely budged for decades | Pew Research Center

And all the money the Wall Street capitalists make off our labor they use to buy politicians, on both the left and right, to maintain this imbalance.

That is what is killing the American dream.
 
Old 07-19-2015, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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the dems want the poor to have the money ---- NOT the middle class

the repubs want the rich to have the money ---- NOT the middle class



---->keep voting for the 2 party system and see if things improve..


bunch of sheep you are I swear
 
Old 07-19-2015, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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Exactly right. The middle class has been losing ground for a long time now. While corporate profits soar and Wall Street rakes it in, the median American worker's wage, adjusted for inflation, has barely budged for decades. We're working harder and longer and earning less in real dollars.

For most workers, real wages have barely budged for decades | Pew Research Center

And all the money the Wall Street capitalists make off our labor they use to buy politicians, on both the left and right, to maintain this imbalance.

That is what is killing the American dream.
Yep. It's been well established that essentially ALL productivity gains over the past few decades have gone to the top 1% rather than the middle class who is actually being more productive.

And somehow many of us still want the 1% to have even MORE money and scream bloody murder over any attempt to fix this problem?

It's insane... and shows just how easily led we Americans are.
 
Old 07-19-2015, 07:35 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure the death of Glass Steagall, the growth of massive too big to fail banks, and all of the deregulation that's led to the speculative derivatives bubbles that have constantly burst since 2000, all of which have tanked our economy and crushed with middle class, also had a huge republican influence.
 
Old 07-19-2015, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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You know, I'd really like to believe that smart people are still in America, and indeed some are. But they're are vastly outnumbered by the completely incompetent idiots who think every thing wrong in the world is either the right's or the left's fault.
One of the best posts on this thread so far.
 
Old 07-19-2015, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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Yep. It's been well established that essentially ALL productivity gains over the past few decades have gone to the top 1% rather than the middle class who is actually being more productive.

And somehow many of us still want the 1% to have even MORE money and scream bloody murder over any attempt to fix this problem?

It's insane... and shows just how easily led we Americans are.
Bravo! Yes, as I always say, in no other country in the world but the US does the middle class (and barely middle class) worry endlessly about how the wealthy will manage. Freaking hilarious.
 
Old 07-19-2015, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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Originally Posted by turkey-head View Post
As much as we all like to blame Bush (and for good reason)... there's plenty of blame to go around here. Fact is that Bill Clinton signed the greatest betrayal of the middle class in our lifetimes (NAFTA- a Republican priority but signed by Clinton). And Obama wants to do the same thing with the TPP (again pushed by Republicans... but our Democratic president wants to sign it).

So while in my opinion the Republicans are MUCH worse for the middle class... we can't blame then entirely. The Neoliberal wing of the Democratic party has done their share of selling out America.
Couldn't rep you again, but another bang-on post.
 
Old 07-19-2015, 09:20 PM
 
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For middle-income jobs, currently there are no laws in place that give preference to US citizens over people in US on a work H1B visa.

Second, low paying labor jobs can be secured for American citizens by securing the southern border.
 
Old 07-20-2015, 05:58 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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If there were jobs other than Walmart I think that hard work and perseverance would do the trick as well.
Jobs won't happen in the Obama economy...

Quote:
"With Small Business Optimism cratering to 15 month lows and CFO's skepticism at 2 year lows, it is no surprise that 'average joe' is also feeling a little less confident (despite the exuberance in equity markets). Gallup's U.S. Economic Confidence Index registered at -11 this week, which marked an eight-month low for the index. While current conditions are weak, more worryingly, the economic outlook has tumbled to its lowest since October with 56% of Americans saying "the economy is getting worse."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0...-getting-worse
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