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Old 07-20-2015, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Has The Left Killed The American Dream

nope!

Corporatocracy has killed the American Dream.

Carry on.


 
Old 07-20-2015, 07:26 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
nope!

Corporatocracy has killed the American Dream.

Carry on.
What do you suggest for the 100 million or more American workers and retirees who have $24 Trillion invested and depend on corporate profits, etc., for their pension/retirement account growth?

Retirement Question 4 | EBRI
 
Old 07-20-2015, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Texas
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What do you suggest for the 100 million or more American workers and retirees who have $24 Trillion invested and depend on corporate profits, etc., for their pension/retirement account growth?

Retirement Question 4 | EBRI

I would suggest some group pressure to have pay, bonuses and benefits for CEO/executive staff vs workers brought into some semblance of sanity.

You?

 
Old 07-20-2015, 07:57 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I would suggest some group pressure to have pay, bonuses and benefits for CEO/executive staff vs workers brought into some semblance of sanity.

You?
Why don't the American workers and retirees who hold those $24 Trillion in equities, etc., vote their shares for such? Hmmm...?
 
Old 07-20-2015, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
nope!

Corporatocracy has killed the American Dream.

Carry on.



Couldn't rep you, OG.
 
Old 07-20-2015, 08:06 AM
 
Location: North America
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Yes I totally agree the RINOs are not any better at supporting the American Dream.
Yes, Kansas is a good example of a pure Conservative policy. And they are a BOOMING!
 
Old 07-20-2015, 08:23 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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If you're talking about owning a home, being self-sufficient, and having enough income to be comfortable, I think it's nearly dead in the largest cities and very rural areas.

The average person is going to have a tough time keeping up with the cost of living in the most prestigious markets like SF, NYC, and Boston. These places are becoming playgrounds for the elite who can easily afford it, and the poor who are subsidized by the rest of the us. The middle is getting forced out by the raw cost of living.

In the rural areas and small towns, jobs are hard to come by, and what is there often pays substantially less than you'd expect, even accounting for the cost of living. Almost everyone ends up poor there.

Mid-sized urban areas and their suburbs seem to be the last bastions of the American dream.
 
Old 07-20-2015, 08:31 AM
 
Location: On the Beach
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I'm on the left and I'm the living embodiment of the American Dream.

So nope...it ain't dead by a long shot.
Could not have said it better!
 
Old 07-20-2015, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Yes, Kansas is a good example of a pure Conservative policy. And they are a BOOMING!
Yep, and their unemployment rate is down to 4.4%.
 
Old 07-20-2015, 09:51 AM
 
Location: NH
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The GOP has certainly helped out with their love of wall street and corporate greed. Corporations are making record profits at historically low tax levels. Much of the profit from cheap overseas labor and loop holes. This is a crony capitalist based economy which does need more regulating in certain areas and less in others. Unless you are well invested or already wealthy the average working class family will never get ahead in this economy.

So it is a poor mix of political crony pandering and the sheep continuing to be sheep that this is. A big boggy mire with the arrogant wealthy elite representing the goal of American life. Nothing much has changed, just intensified.
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