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Originally Posted by greywar
It consistently amazes me how many on the right think people go to college for fields that aren't in demand. theres just this assumption that people are failing because they are choosing too. It constantly amazes me.
How many Americans CHOOSE to not go to school, and not be able to support a family? What nonsense. Sure a small %, and a small % DO study liberal arts, but the vast majority don't.
What nonsense.
The poor must be poor because thats what they CHOOSE. Uh huh.
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That's not true. Compared to East Asian countries, liberal arts degrees are a much bigger percentage in America. It goes back to Americans dislike of math and science. Lots of people choose easy majors just to get that degree and expect a good job because their boomer parents told them so. Many also go for expensive, liberal arts colleges, so we are talking about an unmarketable degree from a privileged institution.
Americans do choose to go to school, but they want the easy path, but don't like the low quality results. You get what you put in. Look at our graduate programs, especially in engineering and the sciences, it is often majority international students, who work very hard under visa restrictions. It's almost a surprise when someone is American.
Colleges aren't giving people the truth. They want to sustain their programs, as enrollment has become the priority for funding. No one tells our young people what they expect with a degree. First, they tell you e degree is very useful and the knowledge is wonderful. Then, they tell you "well, it's never supposed to be about how useful it is for jobs. That's not the goal of education". Colleges aren't upfront, and I find it hypocritical when they act like this. Faculty also want their programs and prestige, and they aren't going to tell people the truth. You rarely see placement numbers. When required, they are tricky. They tell you how many found a job, but full time or part time, in the field or not, unclear. They tell you their PhDs found "teaching positions" or "faculty positions." Upon closer examination, it turned out that most of them are adjuncts, part time, sweating at three colleges where no one respects them and everyone kicks the worst class for them to teach. Young people choose things based on messages they receive, and you'll be amazed at what they are told.
Then, there is also the type of kind hearted white advisors, who tell students of color, you should study what you want to study, you can become what you want to become. Totally out of good will and well intentioned.
Perfect!
Our colleges have long been complicit with the student loans industry. Hey. We get money. You, students, pay the bank interests. Do these colleges and faculty not know that students may be stuck at Denny's with an "over educated" degree? Of course they know, but they didn't care. In just about 20 years, colleges replaced professors with cheap labor teaching assistants, much like how our corporations hire immigrants for the low cost. Even with tuition waiver, teaching assistants save enormously for the college. Imagine you don't have to pay professors $90k and you pay TAs pennies. The tuition waiver isn't a big deal at all. It seems that the colleges are even doing charity.
In Chris hedges "death of the liberal class," he laid out how colleges as a liberal pillar have become corrupt. Today's colleges have a fake leftist facade that attracts criticism from the tea party types. But deep inside, they are a class structure of lavishly paid administrators, complicit but falling professors, and a massive army of temp labor, who tragically bought into the education and sweated as TAs, only to find an adjunct position and shop at Aldi.
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