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Old 07-21-2015, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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Not true. Neighborhoods decline based on the type of people living there and how they take care of their property.
I can only tell you what I've seen first-hand.
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Old 07-21-2015, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I can only tell you what I've seen first-hand.
Now WHY do they leave ? Because undesirables moved in and didn't take care of the property..right ?
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Old 07-21-2015, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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Now WHY do they leave ? Because undesirables moved in and didn't take care of the property..right ?
How did the "undesirables" move in, if there wasn't a place for them?
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Old 07-21-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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The reason this is being done at all is because welfare seekers have turned many of their existing neighborhoods into hellholes. Given enough time, those neighborhoods become urban prairie. The same thing will happen to any new neighborhoods to which they are moved. Given their lack of reliable transportation, this will be in the vicinity of mass transit stops.

Plan accordingly.
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Old 07-21-2015, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I bet HUD thinks if they get rid of ghettos then they will get rid of inner city blight and crime.
Spread them out thin and they won't cause trouble..eh ?
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Old 07-21-2015, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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I bet HUD thinks if they get rid of ghettos then they will get rid of inner city blight and crime.
Spread them out thin and they won't cause trouble..eh ?

Every community will become a "Peyton Place" and neighbors will keep an eye on and report questionable or suspicious activity to the authorities.
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Old 07-21-2015, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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Uh huh...sure they did.

What inspections did they go through?

When did they apply to rent to an HCV tenant?

Also, if the tenant doesn't pay their 30% the landlord still gets 70% from the local housing authority so they got some money.

An eviction, if done expeditiously and by someone who knows what they are doing rarely takes longer than 3 months.

All HCV tenants (Section 8) go through background checks and thy are not eligible to be an HCV tenant if they have a criminal background.

Sounds to me like your parents rented to an unresponsible person who you are trying to claim is a Section 8 tenant. As stated above, there is a pretty in depth process to get one's house accepted in to the HCV program and the landlord has to sign a contract with the housing authority to be eligible to rent to HCV/Section 8 tenants. If your parents didn't do all that, they weren't Section 8 landlords. Also if the tenant was a HCV recipient and if your parents informed the housing authority that the tenant wasn't paying rent, then the housing authority would look into it and get that tenant kicked out of the HCV program.

ETA: In regards to re-certification (keeping HCV status) tenants don't have to go into the office every year to do that anymore. They just submit income verification papers from their jobs to show they are still eligible. It is very rare that an HCV recipient doesn't re-certify as required unless they actually are a criminal or got arrested during the course of the year and they have been kicked out of the HCV program. In that case, your parents would have been notified by the housing authority and if your scenario is correct, they can get the tenant removed due to lack of rent. As stated, it doesn't take 7 months. I am a landlord (though not a Section 8 landlord as due to me formerly working for and with housing authorities, I don't qualify to be a landlord) and I have had to process an eviction before and I have had tenants removed within 2 months from my property.
You may be correct. My retired parents would not know to do all of that. All they told me was the person SAID she got a Section 8 voucher and that is how she would be paying rent and that she never bothered to go downtown to sign some forms. I stand corrected.
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Old 07-21-2015, 01:20 PM
 
Location: LA County
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Except I never said that weather in New England can show the global climate is not warming up.

My output on the subject includes examples from around the world. If you care to, you can refer to my comments on it in their entireties by linking to those spots in the upper right of each where the post numbers appear with hashes in front of them, instead of fictitiously or ineptly paraphrasing my published commentary.

Post #46
//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...ing-now-5.html

Of course if you want to claim that what EastCoastRefugee2 infers from your statement is untrue, go ahead. But the facts are you attempted a refutation of global warming by saying inferring that when snow piles up and doesn't melt it is because the planet is not warming up.



please, feel free to gig a deeper hole. I'll gladly supply a New England Winter's worth of shovels
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Old 07-21-2015, 01:22 PM
 
Location: LA County
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Many rural areas are quite depressed and would like to see that property inhabited.
I don't see how that adds to your claim. There would be numbers enough to turn conservative counties liberal?
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Old 07-21-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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Now WHY do they leave ? Because undesirables moved in and didn't take care of the property..right ?

Many people now a days leave stable neighborhoods due to lack of opportunities in their particular areas. Many areas within the past 5 years have only just begun to deal with issues related to blight and heavy populations shifts from the northern part of the country to the south in particular. Where I live a lot of people have moved away due to them feeling they had better job prospects in other cities or parts of the country. They leave houses that they own to go somewhere else and vacant homes do indeed draw crime and other illicit activities whereby the regular working or middle class folks who stayed in the area now move to another part of town in order to escape those ills.

Blight and abandonment of homes has nothing to do with public housing or section 8 and is a major contributor to people leaving their neighborhoods.
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