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The only explanation I can think of is that the Fort Hood killings were identified as 'work place violence' (since the shooter was also a member of the military). If the killer had been non-military, I assume the flags would not have been lowered, since they were then have been killed in the 'line of duty'.
Oh really.. Interesting..
A Canadian soldier Sergeant Andrew Joseph Doiron was killed Friday, March 6 in what the Canadian Armed Forces are calling a friendly-fire incident.
The Canadian prime minister said in a statement. “Sergeant Doiron lost his life in the line of duty. We will honour and remember his service to Canada,"
My friend lost his one arm due to friendly fire, he received a purple heart.
You lowered the flag for Fort Hood soldiers, you lower the flag for these Marines. They all lost their lives in the line of duty. You (the general term you) can call that work place violence all you want, the Fort hood soldiers lost their lives in the line of duty.
Obama promised; "to fight negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear."
Problem is Islam is NOT a religion of peace. To save the ugly face of Islam being exposed, he will sacrifice even his country.
What is the foundation for this belief? Obama's overseen the killings of more Islamic terrorists than any other president.
His rhetoric has expressed no tolerance for the violent aspects of Islam. If you want him to say that all Muslims are violent, that's just not true. People who engage with Muslims regularly know that and people who only experience them through media have a distorted view of their reality.
The "right wing" media was wrong about the Witney Houston claim. However, the flags were lowered for those killed at mass shootings at the Aurora Theater, Sandy Hook and Virginia Tech (Bush's tenure). So, why not this one? Are US Marines killed by Islamic terrorists on US soil somehow of less value than those killed by the mentally ill? This CiC seems to have more contempt for the US military than any president in history. Hillary is the only candidate that I can think of that comes close to him.
For the first time in my life, I am ashamed of my country. Or at least those we have chosen as leaders to represent her.
People throw around the names of all these incidents of mass murders so nonchalantly. We've become so immune to the gun violence in this country that these incidents are meaningless unless one side can use them as a weapon against the other. Instead of being horrified about how many of these things occur over and over and over again--at a pace of one every two weeks--we're bickering about whether it's proper etiquette to lower the flag to commemorate each one.
I, too, am ashamed of my country in this regard, Toyman. I'm ashamed that people continue to be routinely slaughtered in mass gun violence and all my fellow Americans here on C-D care about is whether a politician lowered a flag.
If Obama had lived his formative years within the country and not Indonesia, perhaps he would have had more love and passion for his country.
So military children or State Department children aren't American enough? What about the immigrant presidential candidate Ted Cruz who was not raised here?
Xenophobes who don't want leaders to experience other cultures or learn how other people think and behave? You were raised so differently than the cosmopolitan culture of my upbringing in the U.S.
In this thread it is. This thread is not about the victims of this particular shooting--no one truly cares about them. This is all a political mud fight about which side is more patriotic, as measured by whether or not they lowered a flag.
Meanwhile, in two weeks we can bicker about this pressing issue all over again...and two weeks after that...and two weeks after that.
In this thread it is. This thread is not about the victims of this particular shooting--no one truly cares about them. This is all a political mud fight about which side is more patriotic, as measured by whether or not they lowered a flag.
Meanwhile, in two weeks we can bicker about this pressing issue all over again...and two weeks after that...and two weeks after that.
But yeah, it's the flag that's important here.
well, this thread is about "obama stubbornly refuses to lower flags"
If you want to start your own thread about gun violence, then I am sure people will respond accordingly.
So military children or State Department children aren't American enough? What about the immigrant presidential candidate Ted Cruz who was not raised here?
Xenophobes who don't want leaders to experience other cultures or learn how other people think and behave? You were raised so differently than the cosmopolitan culture of my upbringing in the U.S.
I am an immigrant myself, having lived more years outside US than within.
I just don't see the passion and love in Obama for his country. If he holds such contempt for US, he should never have run for office.
People throw around the names of all these incidents of mass murders so nonchalantly. We've become so immune to the gun violence in this country that these incidents are meaningless unless one side can use them as a weapon against the other. Instead of being horrified about how many of these things occur over and over and over again--at a pace of one every two weeks--we're bickering about whether it's proper etiquette to lower the flag to commemorate each one.
I, too, am ashamed of my country in this regard, Toyman. I'm ashamed that people continue to be routinely slaughtered in mass gun violence and all my fellow Americans here on C-D care about is whether a politician lowered a flag.
As am I. Our country refused to do a thing about Islamic radicals and the violently mentally ill in this country. Instead the sheep bleat for more useless "gun control" laws, while ignoring the fact that...criminals by their nature ignore laws.
Obama is a POTUS of opportunity. This tragic incident doesnt fit his agenda, whatever you want to believe or not. He could have at least sent someone other than CACO officers to the homes of the loved ones. Lowering the flag to jonor men within the military killed on his watch in the USA would have been appropriate. It was not in comparisin to someone being killed overseas during battle. Then the flag would be raised and lowered more often. So comparing that to a terrosrist action within our borders is in poor taste. Regardless, people who voted amd support him are unpatriotic boobs.
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