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Old 07-21-2015, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Iceland
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How the rise of China as a "successful dictatorship" could affect us all - Dong Li - National Observer Australia 82 - March - May 2010

Forget Russia. China is going to be the west's big rival. I find this to be a very interested read. Perhaps what I find most stunning is the idea that China will in the future start a massive cultural war in the west in order to make people stop supporting democracy and human rights. I also find it interesting how China is basically proving how horrible the west's free trade policies are working.
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Old 07-21-2015, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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It's a 5 year old article. Did it happen yet?
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Old 07-21-2015, 12:31 PM
 
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China's rise will trouble its neighbors before it affects US. Already Japan, Vietnam, Phillippines and India are building their Forces to tackle the rising threat.
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Old 07-21-2015, 12:38 PM
 
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It's a 5 year old article. Did it happen yet?
I don't expect you to agree but the truth is that the Chinese take a very long term view of this stuff and there is no question that they are ramping up militarily and positioning themselves in accord with this strategy. Initially they will turn the South China Sea into a Chinese lake, exercise hegemony over the countries surrounding the South China Sea and then begin to push US influence back across the Pacific. Articles and books being written in China today are just like Mein Kampf, they are telling us exactly what they're going to do. But given that a significant portion our population believes in embedding their heads firmly in the sand and has no since of history or geopolitics, we are ignoring it.
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Old 07-21-2015, 12:49 PM
 
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It's a 5 year old article. Did it happen yet?
I can't stand this kind of ignorance. Why is it that people think this is is how economic or political/social change works? Did Rome stand strong for a thousand years before just suddenly collapsing without warning because of a single policy?

Nations don't just collapse. They fall into a state of slow but consistent decay. There are of course rare cases like the great depression where nations can just almost outright collapse, but such events are very rare.
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Old 07-21-2015, 12:51 PM
 
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I don't expect you to agree but the truth is that the Chinese take a very long term view of this stuff and there is no question that they are ramping up militarily and positioning themselves in accord with this strategy. Initially they will turn the South China Sea into a Chinese lake, exercise hegemony over the countries surrounding the South China Sea and then begin to push US influence back across the Pacific. Articles and books being written in China today are just like Mein Kampf, they are telling us exactly what they're going to do. But given that a significant portion our population believes in embedding their heads firmly in the sand and has no since of history or geopolitics, we are ignoring it.
They've done a impressive job of pushing a little bit at a time. Not enough that we can justify doing something about it.

Its basically the political and economic version of cooking crab.
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Old 07-21-2015, 12:53 PM
 
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most of our population believes in embedding their heads firmly in the sand
Fixed that for you.
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Old 07-21-2015, 12:54 PM
 
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Fixed that for you.
Afraid you are right.
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Old 07-21-2015, 01:01 PM
 
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Democrats don't understand the importance of having the dollar as reserve currency.

Many conservatives understand, but are willing to let Leftists destroy it so we can get our country back.

Military power is necessary but not sufficient to become the dominant global power.
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Old 07-21-2015, 01:02 PM
 
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A second cold war is coming...

Bailouts & bonds, not bullets & boats.

The economic and cultural wars ahead will far outweigh anything military.

FXP is your friend.
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