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Old 07-21-2015, 08:14 PM
 
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No, strong families that teach their children to walk on the right path in life. We don't need any of your stupid liberal programs.
This is not a personally attack on Sarah Palin but, I think that it would be safe to assume that Sarah Palin "taught" her children to "walk on the right path of life" yet her daughter is having her second child as an unwed mother. Based upon that I would conclude that teaching the right path in life, whatever that means, is insufficient.
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Old 07-21-2015, 08:21 PM
 
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This just horrible. But for pro-abortion organizations like Planned Parenthood, it is a measure of their success in their minds, and something to be pleased about.

Only a racist would defend policies that produce an outcome like this.
Without abortions, how will Planned Parenthood get corpses to sell?
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Old 07-21-2015, 08:23 PM
 
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You have a point, however my guess is that most raped women prevent pregnancy. Ever heard of Plan B, emergency contraception?

And no one is giving "raped" women a pass. They are simply considering the horrible trauma these women are going through that they agree to kill a life to save the woman's sanity. Most women having 9 or 15 abortions don't do it because birth control "failed", they do it because their "men" don't like how condoms feel and contraceptives make them fat.
Honest question, not looking for political correctness. Do you actually want this woman to have 9-15 children she can't afford to care for?

Who does that help?

It doesn't help the woman with 9 mouths to feed.

It doesn't help the taxpayers who will inevitably pay out in social services.

It doesn't help the 9 kids who won't grown up in a stable healthy home.

It doesn't help society, poverty is already at astronomical rates.

It doesn't help education. Inner city city schools are overcrowded and underfunded.

But I guess if it helps white evangelical Christians to sleep better at night knowing they "saved" 9 lives, I guess that makes it worth it.
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Old 07-21-2015, 08:27 PM
 
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Without abortions, how will Planned Parenthood get corpses to sell?
I don't understand how this advances the conversation since it's already been proven that there was no selling of fetus parts or anything illegal at all.

Why drag people through the mud with false allegations?
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Old 07-21-2015, 08:29 PM
 
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No, thank you. I've considered the source. Nice trolling, though.
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If eugenics is the reason for legal abortion, why aren't white women banned from aborting?
In fact it is trolling and trolling of the worst sort since most of the quotes attributed to Sanger are either out of context or completely false.

What Sanger actually said:

"We who advocate Birth Control, on the other hand, lay all our emphasis upon stopping not only the reproduction of the unfit but upon stopping all reproduction when there is not economic means of providing proper care for those who are born in health. The eugenist also believes that a woman should bear as many healthy children as possible as a duty to the state. …

We maintain that a woman possessing an adequate knowledge of her reproductive functions is the best judge of the time and conditions under which her child should be brought into the world. We further maintain that it is her right, regardless of all other considerations, to determine whether she shall bear children or not, and how many children she shall bear if she chooses to become a mother."

Sanger, “Birth Control and Racial Betterment,†Feb. 1919:

That isn't to say that Sanger spoke in a politically correct manner by even the standards of her day much less now, but the fact is Sanger worked tirelessly to bring a sense of freedom to poor and minority women that they would not have enjoyed when burdened with unwanted and unnecessary pregnancies.
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Old 07-21-2015, 10:20 PM
 
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This is the problem I have with conservatives.
You don't care about the kid after it is born.
If you really care about kids, you fix the adoption and foster care system.
Plus you would promoting birth control.
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Old 07-21-2015, 10:25 PM
 
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It's not that I am a 'fan' of abortion....but imagine the black community in NYC if theses bortionsw event taking place. This will sound absolutely horrible, but society (and in this case NYC) is likely much better off without these kids. Were they all destined to be criminals? Of course not. But 99% would likely be born into generational poverty, without a father, to mothers ill-equipped to care for them.
So you are actually supporting a policy of diminishing the number of black people in the inner cities using abortion as a tool. If that is not the most racist suggestion I have ever encountered, it is at least in the running and right at the top of the list.
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Old 07-21-2015, 10:27 PM
 
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I don't understand how this advances the conversation since it's already been proven that there was no selling of fetus parts or anything illegal at all.

Why drag people through the mud with false allegations?
What makes you think that has been "proven". And you better come up with something better than a leftist blog quote or one of the extremist howlers on MSNBC insisting it is so.
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Old 07-21-2015, 10:38 PM
 
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women are nor stupid we know what abortion is. be it a fetus, mid term or late. black women like all women have the right to control their reproductive organs any way they see fit.
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Old 07-21-2015, 11:22 PM
 
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What makes you think that has been "proven". And you better come up with something better than a leftist blog quote or one of the extremist howlers on MSNBC insisting it is so.
The folks behind this video are linked to the same who made all the other debunked hit job videos like ACORN and a university that sounded like they were going to train ISIS on campus. They heavily edit tape, ask misleading questions, and tell the story they want.

It preys on the easily manipulated.
Here's why this one is also false:
false: http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/uns...enthood-video/

The real question is, why do I have to do your research for you? Why don't you possess the moral fortitude and intellectual curiosity to seek truth rather than perpetuate lies?

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