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Old 07-26-2015, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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The truth is no one running for office will ever care for the common folk.
Trump does. He's the only one that doesn't give an F about what anyone with any type of authority caters too. He could care less about his political or business career after the election. He is the only one that wants dialogue on the difficult decisions that everyone else just wants to dance around or push further down the road to the next generation.

 
Old 07-26-2015, 10:45 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Airborne I agree with you on Walker, a very good choice if he makes it through. But Sanders? He actually isn't bad on gun control, liberals dont agree with him on that, but everything else? A self proclaimed socialist, it goes against everything America stands for. He claims he would tax the top earners some obscene amount, but we all know that means inevitably it will fall on the rest of us. It's bad enough we have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world, you need that cut to create jobs.

He is nothing more then a tax and spend progressive in the extreme. He would put the final nail in this coffin just slightly quicker then that fake phony liar Hillary would.
I decided after Newtown that I would only vote for politicians who have pledged to uphold the true meaning of the 2nd Amendment, and I meant it. If Bernie Sanders ends up convincing me that he is the strongest vanguard in this election, I'm voting for him regardless of his other positions.

I've resigned myself to the fact that the United States as envisioned by the Constitution will likely never exist in my lifetime. Holding onto my inherent right to keep and bear arms without having to take up arms to secure it is about the only hope I have left via the ballot box. That said, if forced to the cartridge box, we will respond and are far better suited to that method than those who'd cause it to come to that (hipsters, I'm looking at you. )
 
Old 07-26-2015, 11:51 AM
 
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I support Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and Scott Walker in that order. Federal spending is completely out of control and needs to be reined in.
 
Old 07-26-2015, 02:57 PM
 
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Since when did making money become the main qualification for being president?

Because he's certainly ignorant in every other area.
 
Old 07-26-2015, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Since when did making money become the main qualification for being president?

Because he's certainly ignorant in every other area.
You make it sound like money is of no importance to this country or world. He's allocated resources to grow or create more resources. Is someone that just gives it all away more qualified?
 
Old 07-26-2015, 03:34 PM
 
Location: BROOKLYN NYC
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Since when did making money become the main qualification for being president?

Because he's certainly ignorant in every other area.
Says Cida, the "certainly ignorant" DeBlasio supporter. Making money is an enormous qualification. Lifetime politicians do not understand the workings of a real world economy. It's theory to them, never had to make real world decisions. On top of which, do you honestly think in a negotiation the political fool can broker a better deal then a man who sits across from other cut throat businessmen on a daily basis? Trump would wipe the floor with these clowns to our benefit.

I'm sorry Cida, but eloquently pronouncing words off a teleprompter don't strike me as a qualification for president. Give me a man who is willing to kick ass, take names and be unapologetic about it. That's the guy that can get things done, not these feeble pathetic pc politicians we have.
 
Old 07-26-2015, 03:41 PM
 
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Trump is an ass.

Compare him to Buffett, Gates, Bezos, Brin, Page,etc. Hell, even to the eccentric Larry ellison.
They all put him to shame.

Trump comes from inherited wealth and has peddled his bull**** story of rags to riches.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump


Trump is an ass who needs his name in the papers every few years in order to keep his charade going. He says outrageous things on purpose in order to get media attention. Why would a billionaire need to do that? Think about it? Trump is less a businessman than a media celebrity.
 
Old 07-26-2015, 03:52 PM
 
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I decided after Newtown that I would only vote for politicians who have pledged to uphold the true meaning of the 2nd Amendment, and I meant it. If Bernie Sanders ends up convincing me that he is the strongest vanguard in this election, I'm voting for him regardless of his other positions.

I've resigned myself to the fact that the United States as envisioned by the Constitution will likely never exist in my lifetime. Holding onto my inherent right to keep and bear arms without having to take up arms to secure it is about the only hope I have left via the ballot box. That said, if forced to the cartridge box, we will respond and are far better suited to that method than those who'd cause it to come to that (hipsters, I'm looking at you. )
The 2nd amendment is great and I support it wholeheartedly but if you think that your little pea shooter will stop real military armaments if a true despot ever makes it into the oval office then you're delusional.

The US hasn't had a despot as president because the US government is forced to move with the dynamics of the country. This country moves so quickly and adopts various changes in mere decades.

My family came from the Soviet Union. They constantly have despots in government because things rarely change there. Give the Russian population all the guns you want but they'd simply be crushed by the military.

The dynamic in the US has so far been different and it is unique to the modern world. Does the 2nd amendment prevent a despot from coming to power? No. The middle east has been awash in modern weapons for the last century, yet it's a despots dream. If the 2nd amendment does get ruled unconstitutional, does that mean a despotic government is inevitable? The evidence says no. Just look at Europe.

The US isn't special because we have the right to bear arms. This country is special because it is so dynamic and the 2nd amendment only plays a small role.
 
Old 07-26-2015, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Originally Posted by wawaweewa View Post
Trump is an ass.

Compare him to Buffett, Gates, Bezos, Brin, Page,etc. Hell, even to the eccentric Larry ellison.
They all put him to shame.

Trump comes from inherited wealth and has peddled his bull**** story of rags to riches.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump


Trump is an ass who needs his name in the papers every few years in order to keep his charade going. He says outrageous things on purpose in order to get media attention. Why would a billionaire need to do that? Think about it? Trump is less a businessman than a media celebrity.
Trump's dad was raised in Woodhaven Queens and was a developer mostly limited to Brooklyn, and a bit in Queens. Raised his family (Donald included) in Jamaica Estates. I think on Midland Pkwy. Donald expanded the family business to Manhattan, and lived in a Manhattan penthouse and a Palm Beach estate. Is it wrong for a family to show progress generation after generation? Grandfather came as a German immigrant, as a barber according to your link.
 
Old 07-26-2015, 05:58 PM
 
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Trump's dad was raised in Woodhaven Queens and was a developer mostly limited to Brooklyn, and a bit in Queens. Raised his family (Donald included) in Jamaica Estates. I think on Midland Pkwy. Donald expanded the family business to Manhattan, and lived in a Manhattan penthouse and a Palm Beach estate. Is it wrong for a family to show progress generation after generation? Grandfather came as a German immigrant, as a barber according to your link.
Trump did expand the business. Could he have done it without an in inheritance of $40+ million from his father and 15,000+ apartments?
Take 100 people, give them what Trump got and I assure you that a not insignificant amount will go on to make even more money.
Let's take the other side of the coin. How bad of a businessman do you have to be to squander hundreds of millions? Is that even possible if one is not borderline retarded or outright negligent?

This isn't a rags to riches story. Trump almost bankrupted his organization in the 90's and then rode the real estate boom up.

What's so innovative that Trump has done? What makes him such a great businessman? Trump is the definition of inherited wealth.

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