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So embarrassing that our so-called "Commander-in-Chief" had to be shamed into lowering the flag to half mast in honor of our fallen military personnel, who died at the hands of a crazed terrorist.
I disagree. From what I've read, it seems like a good enough deal, approved by not only the United States but Russia, China, Great Britain, France and Germany.
I recall that many were 'against' the nuclear weapon deals hammered out with the Soviet Union. Many did not trust the Soviet Union. Yet, the deals seemed to have worked. As many have said, you do not have to make such deals with friends.
Plus, I think that changes are on the move in Iran, a country of close to 80 million, with younger people making up the vast majority. An article I read in the current New Yorker magazine (by a writer living in Tehran) noted that in Tehran, population of 8 million, only about 100,000 people actually attend mosque on Fridays (they are the ones we see on television chanting 'death to America').
The 'old guard' from the days of the Revolution are getting elderly, and the youth don't have quite the same fire in their belly. Many would like the benefits of Western ways (including, I guess, the toys like ipods, etc). I believe that the Iran of 10 years hence may be markedly different from what we have today, which itself is quite different from the 1980s.
I'm not saying that those in charge of Iran will not continue to sponsor terrorism. The Soviet Union certainly continued to sponsor groups that were against the USA, including providing weapons. This deal, like the USA/Soviet arms accords, did not address such concerns.
I'm sorry that I could not directly address the remarks of Mr. West, but my work computer won't allow me to see it.
I disagree. From what I've read, it seems like a good enough deal, approved by not only the United States but Russia, China, Great Britain, France and Germany.
I recall that many were 'against' the nuclear weapon deals hammered out with the Soviet Union. Many did not trust the Soviet Union. Yet, the deals seemed to have worked. As many have said, you do not have to make such deals with friends.
Plus, I think that changes are on the move in Iran, a country of close to 80 million, with younger people making up the vast majority. An article I read in the current New Yorker magazine (by a writer living in Tehran) noted that in Tehran, population of 8 million, only about 100,000 people actually attend mosque on Fridays (they are the ones we see on television chanting 'death to America').
The 'old guard' from the days of the Revolution are getting elderly, and the youth don't have quite the same fire in their belly. Many would like the benefits of Western ways (including, I guess, the toys like ipods, etc). I believe that the Iran of 10 years hence may be markedly different from what we have today, which itself is quite different from the 1980s.
I'm not saying that those in charge of Iran will not continue to sponsor terrorism. The Soviet Union certainly continued to sponsor groups that were against the USA, including providing weapons. This deal, like the USA/Soviet arms accords, did not address such concerns.
I'm sorry that I could not directly address the remarks of Mr. West, but my work computer won't allow me to see it.
The deal has loopholes because the P5+1 are still blind without full transparency to their nuclear program and toothless without surprise inspections. We had legitimized Iran to have nuclear weapons in 15 years, in violation of the NPT and UNSC.
While much of Iran maybe young and secular, the regime will now strengthen due to relaxed sanctions. The people will become poorer and hardline policies will still be in track, while Iran continues its quest for regional dominance. Lets not forge that the Arabs will now seek nuclear weapons and their is no way anybody can prevent tinder box countries from acquiring.
The Senate can reject the agreement to its heart's desire but the deal is done and you are never going to get China, France, Great Britain, and Russia aren't going to pay our rejection a minute of thought.
(I would argue the specific points raised by Mr. West but that would be a waste of my time).
Iran does not have nuclear weapons today.
According to U.S intelligence They do not have a weaponized Nuclear Program.
Because they are a signatory of the NPT with this Deal or Without this Deal
They can not build nuclear weapons.
everything else is just noise.
It is just political noise. political figures will suffer no particular consequence to do grandstanding on foreign policy issues.
because American people are not particularly familiar with them. and the corporate Media will just repeat whatever the Political establishment wants the American people to hear.
It's either this deal or war so I'll take this deal. We've already lost too much blood and treasure in Iraq to do something that stupid again.
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The Iran Deal is Wrong for America - Reject It!
