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Old 07-24-2015, 05:31 AM
 
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Most Americans are against the policies of our current regime when it comes to ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. We are a nation built and strengthened by LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

Can we at least find middle ground and stop the influx of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS flooding the nation?

Is it too much to ask to further make sure that ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS with felonies be kept out?

Leftie politicians and pundits like continuously frame the discussion by leaving out the word "illegal".
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Old 07-24-2015, 05:40 AM
 
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Most Americans are against the policies of our current regime when it comes to ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. We are a nation built and strengthened by LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

Can we at least find middle ground and stop the influx of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS flooding the nation?

Is it too much to ask to further make sure that ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS with felonies be kept out?

Leftie politicians and pundits like continuously frame the discussion by leaving out the word "illegal".

The reality of the situation is that if you've entered the country illegally you're an illegal immigrant. Leftists don't like reality. They much prefer hopey changey pie in the sky ideology. They'd prefer to be able to say "at least we did something" even if that something actually accomplishes nothing, doing nothing would have been better, or whatever it is they feel they needed to do even possibly causes detriment in other areas. See Obamacare as a prime example. Then there's the shameless pandering for votes. Then there's the endless cries of racism thrown at anyone who dares disagree with their insane mindset. Welcome to the inner workings of the delusional liberal mindset....
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Old 07-24-2015, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Most Americans are against the policies of our current regime when it comes to ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. We are a nation built and strengthened by LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

Can we at least find middle ground and stop the influx of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS flooding the nation?

Is it too much to ask to further make sure that ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS with felonies be kept out?

Leftie politicians and pundits like continuously frame the discussion by leaving out the word "illegal".
It's deliberate. They're trying to increase the Democrat voter base. Let them in. Fake outrage that showing proof of identity is disenfranchising poor black voters (not really about them). Eventually give them everything a poor American citizen is entitled to including a driver's license. Let them vote.
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Old 07-24-2015, 05:45 AM
 
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Because it's not politically correct and they pander to the Hispanic vote.
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Old 07-24-2015, 05:48 AM
 
Location: DC
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Illegal implies the person has violated a criminal statute. Many people here without permission have just failed to return home on time. That isn't a violation of any criminal statutes. It is an administrative rule. Some people may have violated laws when entering the country, but they are entitled to a presumption of innocence unless convicted at a trial. The media usually refrains from prejuding a person's guilt or innocence.

You may call those here without permission "illegal" after a court of law has convicted them of a crime. Understand now?
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Old 07-24-2015, 05:49 AM
 
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It's deliberate. They're trying to increase the Democrat voter base. Let them in. Fake outrage that showing proof of identity is disenfranchising poor black voters (not really about them). Eventually give them everything a poor American citizen is entitled to including a driver's license. Let them vote.
Why would an illegal expose themselves to the law by attempting to vote? No illegals entered the country during the Bush years I`m sure.
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Old 07-24-2015, 05:55 AM
 
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Illegal implies the person has violated a criminal statute. Many people here without permission have just failed to return home on time. That isn't a violation of any criminal statutes. It is an administrative rule. Some people may have violated laws when entering the country, but they are entitled to a presumption of innocence unless convicted at a trial. The media usually refrains from prejuding a person's guilt or innocence.

You may call those here without permission "illegal" after a court of law has convicted them of a crime. Understand now?
Speeding citations are not criminal. However, it is illegal to speed. You can spin this any way you want but any reasonable person with an ounce of common sense isn't buying it. Understand now?
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Old 07-24-2015, 05:58 AM
 
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Why would an illegal expose themselves to the law by attempting to vote? No illegals entered the country during the Bush years I`m sure.
Illegals have no fear of the law. How many examples of an illegal alien appearing on TV or in the news announcing they're illegal and it's all so unfair do you need before you understand that? Obama has chosen to illegally and unconstitutionally ignore the law. The message has been sent and heard loud and clear.
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Old 07-24-2015, 06:05 AM
 
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Illegal implies the person has violated a criminal statute. Many people here without permission have just failed to return home on time. That isn't a violation of any criminal statutes. It is an administrative rule. Some people may have violated laws when entering the country, but they are entitled to a presumption of innocence unless convicted at a trial. The media usually refrains from prejuding a person's guilt or innocence.

You may call those here without permission "illegal" after a court of law has convicted them of a crime. Understand now?
Wrong they violated 8 USC 1325 and can be be convicted under title 18. Nothing administrative about that.
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Old 07-24-2015, 06:05 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Illegal implies the person has violated a criminal statute. Many people here without permission have just failed to return home on time. That isn't a violation of any criminal statutes. It is an administrative rule. Some people may have violated laws when entering the country, but they are entitled to a presumption of innocence unless convicted at a trial. The media usually refrains from prejuding a person's guilt or innocence.

You may call those here without permission "illegal" after a court of law has convicted them of a crime. Understand now?
Please. Just say you are OK with open borders. It will help you lefties stay in power.
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