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ON top of that. I think every sanctuary city should have to be responsible for paying for their incarceration. They want them here, they pay for them, through good and bad. But nooooo. They want EVERYONE to pay. Despite most of us not wanting them here.
They are responsible which is why they won't hold and arrest them. Why should the go to the expense of arresting them and holding them just for the Feds to release them?
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And when states try to do more to deal with illegal immigration on their own, they get sued by the liberal DOJ. Liberal admin doesnt want to stop illegal immigration, but if you do more to deal with it on your own, we will find away to punish you.
Liberals cannot have it both ways. If the feds (i.e. Obama & Co) say immigration is not within the states purview, and even sues the states to prevent them from enforcing the law, they cannot then turn around and say we wont do it either.
This new law is designed to remove discretion from the equation. I generally am not for new laws when existing laws should do the trick provided they are enforced. However when you see a criminal illegal alien like this guy get deported 5 times and has 7 felonies, then he kills an innocent citizen, something needs to be done.
A minimum mandatory 5 years in jail seems like a decent deterrent to me. Of course liberal cities, even within a majority conservative state need to be brought under control. If a state cannot be allowed to enforce immigration laws, then cities cannot be allowed to ignore the federal laws either.
The city council of SF, along with the mayor and police chief all have blood on their hands. Something needs to be done to them individually to help deter other wacko liberals from doing the same thing.
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If the GOP was serious they should have passed immigration reform passed by the senate that included extended jail terms for violent and repeat offenders, this is just a knee jerk reaction to one instance and not well thought out.
Let the city of SF take responsibility rather than national immigration reform, particularly the Sheriff that had a history of ignoring and resisting the department of immigration. It was a very tragic incident but was this widespread at other locations.
They are responsible which is why they won't hold and arrest them. Why should the go to the expense of arresting them and holding them just for the Feds to release them?
I have no answer for this.
To keep them from hurting or killing someone. They are responsible for the safety of their citizens and are putting them at risk. At the very least, if they ARE sanctuary cities, that should come at a cost. They should have to pay for openly allowing illegals to live there in the first place. Make them pay, and theyll change their tune.
It sure as heck wouldnt hurt to instead of just sending them back to wherever, that we have agreements with these other countries for felons/criminals that they get locked up.
I still say the border can be a lot better secured than it has been. Build a big wall where it can be built. Get creative minds to think of other things. It is long past time we got serious about this. But most in DC do not want to do this. They dont give a damn because it doesnt affect them yet
Tell that to the the thousands of Americans who have been murdered by illegal aliens.
Tell that to the families of the 2,996 innocent souls murdered by illegal aliens on September 11, 2001.
All of the 19 terrorists involved in 9/11 had entered the U.S. legally. Only 3/19 overstayed their tourist visas.
The U.S. recieves 70 million foreign tourists, a year. Should the U.S. put ankle bracelets on all of them?
The 19 terrorists held 63 unique US state driver's licenses. Go figure, eh.
If the GOP was serious they should have passed immigration reform passed by the senate that included extended jail terms for violent and repeat offenders, this is just a knee jerk reaction to one instance and not well thought out.
Let the city of SF take responsibility rather than national immigration reform, particularly the Sheriff that had a history of ignoring and resisting the department of immigration. It was a very tragic incident but was this widespread at other locations.
Im not saying the GOP is great on this either. The establishment is the issue. Which, despite raging from you and other lefties, are trying to change that. Some of us are trying to boot out the establishment. On the left side, practically none of them care. They see votes, period, adn some like their GOP estab counterparts, probably work with some businesses to keep anything real from ever getting done.
All of the 19 terrorists involved in 9/11 had entered the U.S. legally. Only 3/19 overstayed their tourist visas.
The U.S. recieves 70 million foreign tourists, a year. Should the U.S. put ankle bracelets on all of them?
The 19 terrorists held 63 unique US state driver's licenses. Go figure, eh.
Aw shucks....
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to middle-aged mom again.
All of the 19 terrorists involved in 9/11 had entered the U.S. legally. Only 3/19 overstayed their tourist visas.
The U.S. recieves 70 million foreign tourists, a year. Should the U.S. put ankle bracelets on all of them?
The 19 terrorists held 63 unique US state driver's licenses. Go figure, eh.
70 million a year is a problem in itself, especially given where some of these people are coming from and the times we live in. But that will never get fixed either because "dont be racist or anti-islamic, etc". And really, another threat topic anyways....
To keep them from hurting or killing someone. They are responsible for the safety of their citizens and are putting them at risk. At the very least, if they ARE sanctuary cities, that should come at a cost. They should have to pay for openly allowing illegals to live there in the first place. Make them pay, and theyll change their tune.
If they have committed a crime there they are still held and prosecuted. If the only crime is being illegal, why should they go through the expense only to have the Feds release them?
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It sure as heck wouldnt hurt to instead of just sending them back to wherever, that we have agreements with these other countries for felons/criminals that they get locked up.
Sure but is Mexico going to keep them locked up? No.
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I still say the border can be a lot better secured than it has been. Build a big wall where it can be built. Get creative minds to think of other things. It is long past time we got serious about this. But most in DC do not want to do this. They dont give a damn because it doesnt affect them yet
I don't want to do it. The answer is to remove the reasons they come here.
Tell that to the the thousands of Americans who have been murdered by illegal aliens.
Tell that to the families of the 2,996 innocent souls murdered by illegal aliens on September 11, 2001.
That's it? In Iraq more than 100k innocent civilians have been killed, more civilians than actual terrorists have been killed.
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What we learned here is that liberals do not care about lives taken or destroyed by illegal immigrants. More sick is that it could probably happen to someone they care for and their politics would trump caring their relative/friend. Liberalism is a sick mental disorder
Once again, knee jerk regulation and laws based on a million on one event - that would have significantly ill impacts and consequences.
Tell you what, Obama is right.
Just like when obama and the LWNJ's say we need more gun control laws, or ban guns, when some drugged up idiot shoots a bunch of people, that is a knee jerk reaction. However, this illegal immigration problem needs to be contained. Deport illegal immigrants, since they're breaking the law being here illegally.
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