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Q: What do you call a millionaire after he pays his taxes?
Wait for it...
A: A millionaire.
Carry on.
That doesn't answer the question. How is keeping more of your own money "welfare?" If keeping more of what you already have is "welfare," why don't we just let the poor keep more of what they already have instead of giving them an additional several hundreds of billions of dollars in cash transfers and services each year?
Great, then employers will pay people $0.50 an hour for unskilled labor. I enjoy not seeing hordes of people sleeping under every overpass and defecating in the streets. That's what will happen with no minimum wage or welfare programs.
That doesn't answer the question. How is keeping more of your own money "welfare?"
That's your question, not mine. I'll let you figure that one out w/o my holding your hand.
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If keeping more of what you already have is "welfare," why don't we just let the poor keep more of what they already have instead of giving them an additional several hundreds of billions of dollars in cash transfers and services each year?
In Right Wing Fantasy Land, tax cuts, trickle down and deregulation result in a booming economy.
In the real world, that policy gave us the Great Recession.
In RWFL, we were told that the sale of Iraqi oil would pay for the war.
In reality, that war that Dubya and chicken Cheney fouled up 10 ways from Tuesday, will end up costing us $6 trillion dollars. Lots of that was money that Dubya borrowed from China. We have to pay it back. Those with the most money are most able to pick up Bush's slack. Tax cuts and trickle down won't work. Hasn't worked. Has been a worldwide economic disaster. Just like the "We'll be greeted as liberators" didn't work out so well.
Now we have to pay those bills. It'll require LOTS of tax dollars
Seriously, stop giving stuff to people that didn't earn it. The valuable and more productive members of society are sick of picking up the slack for the low-skilled, the unemployable, and the perpetual breeders. They prove time and time again that if you give them an inch, they will take a mile. I'm sick of paying for things that are of no benefit to me or society as a whole.
Oh, and to the liberals that will try to divert to defense spending (yes you are that predictable), start your own thread.
Wow... great idea. Never thought of that before...
You don't want to talk about defense spending? Fine. Let's talk about something else: corporate welfare. Are you ok with that?
See, if you're argument was coming from an actual place of fiscal conservatism, you'd have included that in this. But you didn't. Instead you stuck with social conservatism (social authoritarianism if we don't used the arches left/right political spectrum) and this silly idea that all poor people are only poor because they're lazy. And trust me, in the argument of validating the lazy, I'm your ally. I do believe we need welfare reform to ensure people who refuse to work don't just get free things. But sometimes, welfare isn't a bad thing. Sometimes, things happen that you can't do anything about. A spouse dies and suddenly you don't know how you'll care for your kids alone. Your business closes because the owners is a irresponsible git who gambled with your and all your coworkers future.
They aren't lazy. They are genuinely disadvantaged. I support welfare reform as a means of getting people back on their feet after a blow. But they need to put effort in. Those who don't try shouldn't get welfare, but those who just need a little boost can have it. We look after each other in a society. I support welfare reform, not abolition.
Seriously, stop giving stuff to people that didn't earn it. The valuable and more productive members of society are sick of picking up the slack for the low-skilled, the unemployable, and the perpetual breeders. They prove time and time again that if you give them an inch, they will take a mile. I'm sick of paying for things that are of no benefit to me or society as a whole.
Oh, and to the liberals that will try to divert to defense spending (yes you are that predictable), start your own thread.
After all, most of them are just 3/5th of a person anyway, huh?
That's your question, not mine. I'll let you figure that one out w/o my holding your hand.
If you want to claim that keeping more of what you already have is "welfare," let's agree that we can stop giving the poor several hundreds of billions of dollars a year in cash transfers and services, and let them keep more of what they already have, as that, by your own definition, is "welfare." Deal?
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