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I have no college degree and make 60+ annually...I bust my butt...is that fair?
You DESERVE what you ACCEPT! Life is what you make it. FAIR has nothing to do with it and I dare say the more people try to make things fair the more unfair to the harder/smarter worker it becomes.
I'm the 20k making guy in that scenario. Yay philosophy lol. Is it fair? I don't know, maybe not..
But since when has life been fair? If you do a lib arts degree expect to either hustle or struggle for a bit. I did philosophy and though money is tight to non existent, I have no regrets. I did it because philosophy is where my talents were strongest. What's funny about this is, it's literally like a year of school and I could get a math degree, a bio degree, a business degree...I've taken most classes those majors have, it's just the name on my degree is different. I opted for a broader degree because I didn't want to feel pidgeon holed into a certain track back then. Like, right now I'm only 25 and I can get into most fields within 3 to 4 years, if that..so I actually like my position. Fine, money is tight now but money is coming.
And I have lots of diversified experience at this point, I have learned so many jobs, that I honestly think I'm up for any challenge. I've worked from vet hospitals to business inventory, from sports management to test proctoring. From offices, to warehouses, to parking lots to stadiums of 20k+.
Anyway, life isn't fair. 20 years from now, if I'm at the top "despite" being trained in the liberal arts when my peers are stuck at 100k in engineering, it won't be fair either..that I had the sense to avoid that.
My rationale was simple actually. I'm either dying poor or rich, I will never die middle class. And that's where those degrees take you..middle class America. But with me, I'm either dying poor because I put myself in a position of having to try on my own and I continuously failed, or else something took off and like Mr. Trump "I'm really rich" lol. For me, not trying and just going with it isn't really an option. If I don't try, I don't eat.
Right now I don't even know if I make 20k a year, but the other thing is...since it isn't an important job, I don't even stress about it. I mean, I haven't even gone to work in a week lol. Too busy on my own projects so work takes a back seat and is done as needed. Starting companies, building websites, partnering and investing is what I do most often. Meanwhile on paper it looks like I'm doing two jobs actually, so the experience is just building up for pretty much free.
To me, it beats the hell out of the extra $40k people are making while giving people literally only the weekends off. How do people live that life? That's just not for me. Well, maybe if I had kids..
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Reading the thread..why do people think that at 23 either of these two people's career tracks are set in stone?
It's not where you're from, it's where you're going.
At that age the one making $20k has plenty of time to acquire the skills to get into a lucrative career. Likewise, the one making $60k has plenty of tie to advance and get a salary that will enable him to raise a family. Each can choose his own path, as they have already done so far. Yes, it's fair, they both had the same opportunities, and were allowed to make their own choices.
There is such a focus on math and science these days that some think liberal arts is a waste. No one seems to care about english, writing, research, history, communication, etc. It may not be a money maker but they are passionate about it and we need people like them. Talking to a history major versus a math major is so much more enriching
There is such a focus on math and science these days that some think liberal arts is a waste. No one seems to care about english, writing, research, history, communication, etc. It may not be a money maker but they are passionate about it and we need people like them. Talking to a history major versus a math major is so much more enriching
One went to college and studied Accounting, with a 3.2 GPA, and got a job in January with EY, one of the Big Four Accounting Firms, and is making about $60,000.
The other twin went to college, got a 4.0 GPA but got a Liberal Arts Degree in Communications and only could find a job at a Movie Theatre selling food and makes about $20,000 a year.
Both are college graduates. Is it fair that the Accounting Graduate is making $60K, while the better student, the Communications Major, is only making $20K for his full time job?
Looks like someone should have done more research before choosing a degree if they were concerned about pay...
One went to college and studied Accounting, with a 3.2 GPA, and got a job in January with EY, one of the Big Four Accounting Firms, and is making about $60,000.
The other twin went to college, got a 4.0 GPA but got a Liberal Arts Degree in Communications and only could find a job at a Movie Theatre selling food and makes about $20,000 a year.
Both are college graduates. Is it fair that the Accounting Graduate is making $60K, while the better student, the Communications Major, is only making $20K for his full time job?
The other twin simply needs to find a better paying job, even if that means moving to a different town.
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