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Old 07-28-2015, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I have two nephews. They are twins.

One went to college and studied Accounting, with a 3.2 GPA, and got a job in January with EY, one of the Big Four Accounting Firms, and is making about $60,000.

The other twin went to college, got a 4.0 GPA but got a Liberal Arts Degree in Communications and only could find a job at a Movie Theatre selling food and makes about $20,000 a year.

Both are college graduates. Is it fair that the Accounting Graduate is making $60K, while the better student, the Communications Major, is only making $20K for his full time job?
Yes it is fair.

Cashier earns $20,000 / year

Accountant earns $60,000 / year

That is the market value.
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Old 07-28-2015, 03:24 PM
 
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Yes it is fair.

Cashier earns $20,000 / year

Accountant earns $60,000 / year

That is the market value.
exactly, OP made it sound like one guy is working in his field of study.

The other guy making 60k could easily be in the same position if he took the job.
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Old 07-28-2015, 03:51 PM
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So...to be fair, a doctor and a retail manager should make about the same money, right?
They did in the Soviet Union, but both had to wait in long lines in their spare time to buy basic foodstuffs because the grocers and farmers got paid whether they were productive or not.
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Old 07-28-2015, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Yes, the Accounting Major who works for EY, the huge International Accounting Firm, is worth more. But at age 23 he is just getting started and has only been there for six months. I don't think he is worth three times as much as the brother who is working at the movie theatre. Maybe in ten years he may, assuming the movie theatre brother is still doing the same thing and the Accountant is growing in his career. But three times the salary today, I don't think so.

The accountant may be worth twice as much, in my opinion.
That's not your call. It is up to the company who hired him how much they want to pay him. If they think that he is worth $60,000 then that's what he gets. If the $20,000 earning nephew thinks that isn't fair, then the $20,000 earning nephew can go back to school and get a degree that will earn him $60,000 a year.

It's called: Personal Responsibility.

If you think you aren't making enough, you either negotiate for higher pay, find a company who will pay you what you think you are worth, or re-evaluate that major that you received and try for something else.
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Old 07-28-2015, 04:16 PM
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If you think you aren't making enough, you either negotiate for higher pay, find a company who will pay you what you think you are worth, or re-evaluate that major that you received and try for something else.
And we're not going to pay for them to keep going back to skool.
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Old 07-28-2015, 04:46 PM
 
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Yeah, and a good underwater-welder can make 50 bucks an hour, or more.

50 * 2000 = 100K

If you have a SKILL that is really in demand, you can make good bucks. Heck, you can get good at doing brake-jobs in a high volume shop and make a good living.

Poetry or ethnic-studies...........best hope you get some gravy, overpaid gubbbbament job.
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Old 07-28-2015, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts & Hilton Head, SC
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30 years ago, no. Today? Yes. It is a major that revolves around use of technology, with heavy course work in audio and video editing, internet technology, content production for the internet, software based strategies, interactive media, digital layout, etc. The entire focus of the major now is how to manage technology.

You might be thinking of Communication Studies, aka Communication, rather than Communications. That one is a liberal art (under social science), but is a totally different area of study than Communications.
Thank you. There's a lot of different fields you can be employed in with a degree in Communications.

My daughter is involved in digital media. Her clients are the fashion industry, mostly in NYC. Big names.
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Old 07-28-2015, 04:51 PM
 
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The other one should have also gotten a degree worthy of 6 figures.
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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I have two nephews. They are twins.

One went to college and studied Accounting, with a 3.2 GPA, and got a job in January with EY, one of the Big Four Accounting Firms, and is making about $60,000.

The other twin went to college, got a 4.0 GPA but got a Liberal Arts Degree in Communications and only could find a job at a Movie Theatre selling food and makes about $20,000 a year.

Both are college graduates. Is it fair that the Accounting Graduate is making $60K, while the better student, the Communications Major, is only making $20K for his full time job?
Is this a serious question?

Anybody going into a working environment with notions of 'fairness' is likely gonna live some hard lessons. Maybe they'll learn those lessons; maybe they won't. But in the real world, notions of 'fairness' are a luxury that we all entertain at our own peril.
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:11 PM
 
Location: DC
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Lesson to parents. If your child is getting a Liberal Arts Degree he/she will not make much money. Liberal Arts professors will tell you they are taught "to think." Perhaps they should think, "How am I going to earn a living?"
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