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If you think you aren't making enough, you either negotiate for higher pay, find a company who will pay you what you think you are worth, or re-evaluate that major that you received and try for something else.
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The moral of the story is get a degree that is useful instead of a useless degree. The choices you make in life will determine your path.
Fair? No but that is life. Deal with it.
His degree is actually very useful if he can find a job, but Communications isnt just a job you land in . Its an experience job and there for, Businesses or politicians dont usually hire people right out of college. He should have spent his last 2 years of high school and all of college interning.
One went to college and studied Accounting, with a 3.2 GPA, and got a job in January with EY, one of the Big Four Accounting Firms, and is making about $60,000.
The other twin went to college, got a 4.0 GPA but got a Liberal Arts Degree in Communications and only could find a job at a Movie Theatre selling food and makes about $20,000 a year.
Both are college graduates. Is it fair that the Accounting Graduate is making $60K, while the better student, the Communications Major, is only making $20K for his full time job?
" Is it fair..?" of course it is.
One gets a a degree where he actually LEARNED HOW do something.
The other got a degree that gave him no real skills.
One went to college and studied Accounting, with a 3.2 GPA, and got a job in January with EY, one of the Big Four Accounting Firms, and is making about $60,000.
The other twin went to college, got a 4.0 GPA but got a Liberal Arts Degree in Communications and only could find a job at a Movie Theatre selling food and makes about $20,000 a year.
Both are college graduates. Is it fair that the Accounting Graduate is making $60K, while the better student, the Communications Major, is only making $20K for his full time job?
Is this a real question?
I did my BA in Political Science and History and graduated with honors. I quickly realized that this qualified me to make 23 different types of coffee. So I went back and got a Masters and JD.
Let's be honest, I loved my undergrad studies. I learned an enormous amount about politics, history, foreign policy, socio-economic issues, etc... None of that was particularly useful to a kid in his 20's looking for a job. So I went to grad school. Fast forward 20 years. I'm now very involved in politics and public policy. I own my own business now and that "liberal arts" background is a lot more useful. Tell your nephew to figure out a direction that interests him and the money will follow.
I did my BA in Political Science and History and graduated with honors. I quickly realized that this qualified me to make 23 different types of coffee. So I went back and got a Masters and JD.
Let's be honest, I loved my undergrad studies. I learned an enormous amount about politics, history, foreign policy, socio-economic issues, etc... None of that was particularly useful to a kid in his 20's looking for a job. So I went to grad school. Fast forward 20 years. I'm now very involved in politics and public policy. I own my own business now and that "liberal arts" background is a lot more useful. Tell your nephew to figure out a direction that interests him and the money will follow.
I agree with this. I was an English Lit major (concentration technical writing). But I also had A LOT of experience in regards to real work experience along with internships and mostly in the financial sector (banking) and in government procurement and contracting. I am working on a master's degree but have always made good money and I also own my own consulting firm.
When I was 23 I stopped working and had a child and was a stay at home mom for 3 years before going back to work full time. While a SAHM I worked from home doing work for others and customer service from home so I wouldn't have gaps in my resume.
Everyone's life is different. Just because he makes $20K now doens't mean that his life will be worse than his brother. And FWIW, as I've gotten older, I've come to realize that money isn't everything. I am a frugal person by nature and always live well beneath my means and I can easily live off of $30-$40K per year (and usually do as I save the rest of my income) because I own both my home and car outright and don't have many expenses at all. Time with family and opportunity for vacation and for my leisure activities is more important to me than making a lot of money.
And I couldn't do the job I do now without my English degree, which involved a TON of writing assigned from extremely anal professors lol. If I had the chance, I would chose to pursue the degree I did again but I would probably do a business minor just to have more classes in finance/accounting only because my current career now requires those classes and that is why I went back to school.
Lesson to parents. If your child is getting a Liberal Arts Degree he/she will not make much money. Liberal Arts professors will tell you they are taught "to think." Perhaps they should think, "How am I going to earn a living?"
As discussed above, Communications (not the same degree as Communication) is not a liberal arts degree anyway.
Lesson to parents. If your child is getting a Liberal Arts Degree he/she will not make much money. Liberal Arts professors will tell you they are taught "to think." Perhaps they should think, "How am I going to earn a living?"
I have a liberal arts degree and I make more money than most Americans. Also as stated above, money is not the key to happiness or success in life.
And IMO people do need to learn to "think." It is evident in these forums that "thinking" is a skill not owned by many in our society today. They see a headline and believe the headline without question and without thinking. They are fed sensationalized news and believe it hook, line and sinker. People are so guillible and fearful today it is pretty sickening. There should always be what I consider a "thinking" class. Unfortunately our ranks have fallen since arts have been taken out of school and kids have been taught to memorize and pass tests versus how to question and think critically.
His degree is actually very useful if he can find a job, but Communications isnt just a job you land in . Its an experience job and there for, Businesses or politicians dont usually hire people right out of college. He should have spent his last 2 years of high school and all of college interning.
Or he should have been hotter and female....pharmaceutical reps.
The only people at my school that seemed to be in communications were guys from the football\basketball team and typically very attractive women.
Of course it's fair. It's not a matter of what their degrees were in. It's a question of how skilled they have to be for their current jobs and the relative scarcity of the skills in the community. The accountant has a specific skill set that the general population does not have and his employer has to pay him a certain amount to keep him there because. They movie theater employee is using a skill set that lots of people have and his employer doesn't have to pay him much because he's easily replaceable.
How is it not fair? They both got to go to college where they had the opportunity to research various career outlooks and pay scales. They both perused something that interested them each. Money does not motivate everyone and to be free to pick how you want to spend your work life is one of the things that is so great about America.
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