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Old 08-03-2015, 11:38 PM
 
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pp helps lower abortion rates by education and offering affordable birth control.
b.s.

 
Old 08-03-2015, 11:39 PM
 
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and a woman has the right to continue to take the fetus to term or not.
To a point.

The issue is that PP abortion doctors are trying to figure out how to not crush the viable organs they can sell off (when that women who has that right has an abortion) at the point when the organs of a fetus are viable for sale/research and are NOT BEING HONEST ABOUT IT.

Sell aborted fetus organs?

If that is part of PP business? Be upfront about it.

Why hide it?
 
Old 08-03-2015, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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A fetus is a live baby that has not reached a level of maturity that would allow it to survive outside of the womb.
fe·tus
ˈfēdəs/
noun
an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.

You seem to need to learn this definition before you use the word....or do you have a hard time accepting the word, "unborn?" Which you also seem to have a hard time accepting the fact that the majority of abortions happen before it is even classified a fetus. Most of the type women are just aborting an embryo.
 
Old 08-03-2015, 11:43 PM
 
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b.s.
they serve over 2 million people a year. sex education and affordable BC are part of the program.
 
Old 08-03-2015, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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b.s.
So you call common knowledge bs? It is common knowledge that if you want to lower abortions and birth rates, then you educate and provide proper contraceptives.
 
Old 08-03-2015, 11:45 PM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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Oh well, the silly bill was blocked today anyway. Time for the loons to move onto the environmental plan, Iran, or Clinton's emails. We haven't heard about Benghazi for a while, maybe they can find another "smoking gun" under some fictional rock..
 
Old 08-03-2015, 11:46 PM
 
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To a point.

The issue is that PP abortion doctors are trying to figure out how to not crush the viable organs they can sell off (when that women who has that right has an abortion) at the point when the organs of a fetus are viable for sale/research and are NOT BEING HONEST ABOUT IT.

Sell aborted fetus organs?

If that is part of PP business? Be upfront about it.

Why hide it?
if they are trying to keep organs in tact for donation I can understand them trying not to "crush" or destroy them as little as possible.

the organs don't necessarily have to be viable to be donated. they are being reimbursed for storing, shipping and packaging.

they obviously are being upfront about it. the women sign a permission waiver when they donated and the research facilities that get the organs know about it.
 
Old 08-03-2015, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The baby in the womb.
Feel good rhetoric on your part doesn't make it so.
 
Old 08-03-2015, 11:48 PM
 
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pp helps lower abortion rates by education and offering affordable birth control.
b.s.
 
Old 08-03-2015, 11:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by hothulamaui View Post
if they are trying to keep organs in tact for donation I can understand them trying not to "crush" or destroy them as little as possible.

the organs don't necessarily have to be viable to be donated. they are being reimbursed for storing, shipping and packaging.

they obviously are being upfront about it. the women sign a permission waiver when they donated and the research facilities that get the organs know about it.
Storing, shipping and packaging?

Not donation. SELLING.

If PP was being upfront about it there would be NO issue TODAY.

So keep trying.
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