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That means he is not an unbiased source, as he has an agenda.
Facts aren't biased.
They are facts.
He provided FACTS.
You don't have to like them.
If you refuse to acknowledge them, because it doesn't fit YOUR agenda? That's your problem. Prepare to be called out for your lack of acknowledging facts because they don't work for your "cause", whatever it is, until you do.
Last edited by Informed Info; 09-02-2015 at 11:30 PM..
Poor analogy. Those things have nothing to do with deciding which medical treatment you choose to have and the risks involved with each treatment.
In the case of a man with prostrate cancer, he can choose no treatment, chemo, radiation, surgery.....his doctor will discuss the risks of each option and the patient can choose. The government doesn't step in and say which treatment he is allowed to have.
A pregnant woman deserves the same rights as a man when making medical decisions that will effect her health. She can weigh the risks of carrying a pregnancy to term vs aborting and make her own choice.....without government interference.
Another straw man fallacy (actually just a repeat).
You can choose many different ways to NOT end up pregnant. Not having unprotected sex is one.
You can't choose to get or not get prostate cancer.
So anything else that happens after the fact one has prostate cancer and the "treatment for prostate cancer choice" compared to and unwanted pregnancy that ends up in an abortion, is nothing other than complete bull shiit.
Use a condom. Get your shots. Take your pills. Get your implants. Don't have unprotected sex. Don't have sex.
Not exactly brain surgery.
It's absolutely disgusting that you and your ilk compare getting knocked up (PREVENTABLE) and going for an abortion to dealing with a diagnosis of cancer and treatment of.
I'm more than sure any cancer victim would prefer to take his or her chances carrying a pregnancy to full term 10000000000000x over than dealing with CANCER.
Last edited by Informed Info; 09-02-2015 at 11:39 PM..
Another straw man fallacy (actually just a repeat).
You can choose many different ways to NOT end up pregnant. Not having unprotected sex is one.
You can't choose to get or not get prostate cancer.
So anything else that happens after the fact one has prostate cancer and the "treatment for prostate cancer choice" compared to abortion, is nothing other than complete bull shiit.
Use a condom. Get your shots. Take your pills. Get your implants. Don't have unprotected sex. Don't have sex.
Not exactly brain surgery.
It's absolutely disgusting that you and your ilk compare getting knocked up and going for an abortion to dealing with a diagnosis of cancer and treatment of.
I'm more than sure any cancer victim would prefer to take his or her chances carrying a pregnancy to full term 10000000x over than dealing with CANCER.
I wasn't comparing pregnancy to cancer.
I was making an example of the choices a patient makes, choices that no one wants the government sticking its nose into except in the case of pregnancy.
Treatment choices a patient makes are PRIVATE and not the business of politicians and government.
I was making an example of the choices a patient makes, choices that no one wants the government sticking its nose into except in the case of pregnancy.
Treatment choices a patient makes are PRIVATE and not the business of politicians and government.
Annie53, this is getting ridiculous. I can tell you have either had a family member go through some of what you post, you skim the internet for info, or you worked in the medical field in some capacity. Don't you see you give these comebacks that are so full of holes I could drive an 18 wheel truck through them.
Your last sentence was touched on a post or two ago by Sawdustmaker and he is correct. You don't like the facts when they don't fit your agenda. So obvious Annie, so obvious. The politicians and Gvt DO play a big role in patient care. Let me make 2 points in hopes you will stop the drive by one liners that at best are absurd and as usual completely off topic.
1) A hospital profit or non profit gets most of its revenue from where Annie? (hint its approximately 70% of the organizations gross revenue.)
2) Now look up the acronym DRG and then tell me who oversees and approves it.
Once you get an understanding of the questions I posed, I obsecrate you to recant your last sentence here and stop throwing crap on the fan hoping it will stick.
Here is a list.....the most effective, {by far} forms of birth control require a woman to see a doctor for a gynecological exam. You need to see a doctor for pills, shots, IUD's and sterilization.
Maybe I'm reading your posts more carefully than you write them. You said the most effective methods of bc require a woman to see a Gynecologist. To me, that's not the same as getting an exam and prescription or procedure from a general practitioner.
The point is, as the chart shows, nearly every bc method is very effective when used consistently and properly. Access is easy. Unavailability of bc is a marginal problem. A much bigger issue, one that choicers avoid, is the failure of women and their sexmates to use the bc they have or easily have access to.
I am in favor of PP and I have no idea what the original poster implies that I would also be in favor of slavery, which I am not. PP provides many services for MEN and women (testicular cancer, cholesterol, diabetes, high blood pressure screenings, quit smoking program, birth control for men and women, reverse vasectomies, etc.) Only 3% of their procedures are abortion. Some charge according to what a person can pay.
Those that CHOOSE to have an abortion it is THEIR CHOICE, not yours or mine. They are asked AFTER they make a decision to have an abortion if they want to donate the fetal remains. The research using fetal remains has been going on since the 1930's and it just became "news" because some pro-lifer or anti PP person wanted to use it for their own beliefs. Fetal stem cell research has enabled researchers to develop vaccines (chicken pox, rubella, shingles) and treatment for degenerative diseases like Parkinson's.
So to summarize my opinion if they weren't available to low income people there would be a lot more babies having babies and women who couldn't afford another mouth to feed.
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