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Old 07-29-2015, 06:01 AM
 
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Why does anyone owe reparations to anyone? It's history, move along.
That's an asinine assertion.

Germany shouldn't have given reparations to Jews?

The United States didn't owe reparations to Japanese American internees?

India has every right to ask for reparations from GB. Whether or not the British should pay is another matter.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:49 AM
 
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That's an asinine assertion.

Germany shouldn't have given reparations to Jews?

The United States didn't owe reparations to Japanese American internees?

India has every right to ask for reparations from GB. Whether or not the British should pay is another matter.
Is it fair that people who had nothing to do with it pay reparations? It's always the average taxpayer who pays, while the culprits get off the hook.

It's not like governments in India has never exploited other states in the past either. It seems a bit hypocritical to me.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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That's an asinine assertion.

Germany shouldn't have given reparations to Jews?

The United States didn't owe reparations to Japanese American internees?

India has every right to ask for reparations from GB. Whether or not the British should pay is another matter.
Depends on how far back you want to go. Maybe only within the lifetimes of those who were responsible for the harm?

Otherwise, maybe the US should ask for reparations from GB for the damage they did here? After all they burnt down the US capitol in 1814.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Why are Americans making judgements on a dispute involving two nations that we aren't citizens of? How would any of us know whether or not India is owed reparations?
We're American citizens, yes. But we're also citizens of the world.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Why does anyone owe reparations to anyone? It's history, move along.
1. This is an intellectual discussion. However, obviously the "statute of limitations" (soft definition) is long past.

2. The desire to assign responsibility for one's actions, or in this case, a nation's actions, as a means of preventing colonialism in the future.

3. To pay back for all the raw materials stolen from India.

4. To pay back for all the near-slave labor stolen from the Indian people.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Is it fair that people who had nothing to do with it pay reparations? It's always the average taxpayer who pays, while the culprits get off the hook.

It's not like governments in India has never exploited other states in the past either. It seems a bit hypocritical to me.
There is still plenty of wealth in Great Britain that can be attributed to its colonial past. And, if my memory serves, Indian finally gave up India in 1947, and there are still plenty of people around from 1947 (I know).
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:59 AM
 
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There is still plenty of wealth in Great Britain that can be attributed to its colonial past. And, if my memory serves, Indian finally gave up India in 1947, and there are still plenty of people around from 1947 (I know).
And plenty of India's current economic advantage and wealth comes from its large English speaking population and infrastructure in what was otherwise a feudal economy and system several hundreds years behind Britain during the time of British occupation - a legacy of colonialism.

So really, you'd have to involve self-interested accountants and experts to find out if, on balance, India is better off today because of British colonial influence, or on balance worse off.



But honestly, once you start going down this reparations path, people should beware. Where does one stop? I wonder when eastern Europe will file a claim against Mongolia for the destruction and theft by the Mongolian Empire?

Will Spain and Portugal be sued by Latin America while it files its own cross-claims for reparations against Northern Africa?
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Old 07-29-2015, 12:48 PM
 
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Is it fair that people who had nothing to do with it pay reparations? It's always the average taxpayer who pays, while the culprits get off the hook.

It's not like governments in India has never exploited other states in the past either. It seems a bit hypocritical to me.
Yeah...it's as fair as it can possibly be.

The British raped India for a long time, which certainly helped Britain to build itself up on the backs of Indians.

That means that modern day Brits STILL benefit.

Does that mean that Britain should pay? I don't know. I'm only addressing the RIGHT of India to lodge a claim if they so choose. And no one but the British and Indians can ascertain the validity of reparations.

Americans don't know squat about the validity of the claim.
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Old 07-29-2015, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Old 07-29-2015, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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Isn't this an indication that the British left behind absolutely nothing of worth to help India industrialize? The British usually claim their imperialism "uplifted" the colonies yet isn't the failure of India to industrialize indicative that this is NOT the case?

They speak English in India. English is the language of commerce.
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