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Very true. So let's drop the idea that the Democratic party is absolutely synonymous with far-left economic theory, or that the GOP is the bastion of free-market economics. That might have been true in 1988, but isn't anymore.
Can anyone realistically say that the confused economic populism of Sarah Palin or Mike Huckabee is more "free enterprise" or "capitalistic" than the enviable record produced by Bill Clinton's economic policy? The GOP continues an odd drift into the trailer-park electorate, and not surprisingly, most wealthy professionals and "corporate types" have left that fold with impunity (Democrats routinely carry affluent suburbs). Have people with MBAs fled towards Marx, or are they fleeing a party that has somewhat abandoned them?
And more importantly, what does social conservatism do to boost wealth in a capitalist system? Managing and developing smart people in a fortune-500 company is very different from being a taxidermist in the Deep South, and only one of these pursuits generates a lot of efficiently-created wealth. If your job is at all threatened by an undocumented worker, you should have studied harder in high school.
Being fixated on gays and illegal immigrants is not well received by the business community for a reason - it is a fixation of intolerant, under-educated and economically low-contributing members of society that don't add value for corporations. How you sell hammers in rural Texas is your own matter - world-class corporations embrace free markets and socially diverse societies. Conservativism no longer gets this (but it does understand the "rapture" and "intelligent design").
Being fixated on gays and illegal immigrants is not well received by the business community for a reason - it is a fixation of intolerant, under-educated and economically low-contributing members of society that don't add value for corporations. How you sell hammers in rural Texas is your own matter - world-class corporations embrace free markets and socially diverse societies. Conservativism no longer gets this (but it does understand the "rapture" and "intelligent design").
Pure nonsense. Open borders, mass immigration from low IQ nations and globalism is about collapsing the middle class. Diversity and multiculturalism and PC is about promoting division of the populace and collapsing freedom and liberty and propagating mass immigration.
Corporations and government are trying to turn America into a country like Brazil or such with two-economic classes and divided and diverse and poor/powerless populace .
Very true. So let's drop the idea that the Democratic party is absolutely synonymous with far-left economic theory, or that the GOP is the bastion of free-market economics. That might have been true in 1988, but isn't anymore.
Can anyone realistically say that the confused economic populism of Sarah Palin or Mike Huckabee is more "free enterprise" or "capitalistic" than the enviable record produced by Bill Clinton's economic policy? The GOP continues an odd drift into the trailer-park electorate, and not surprisingly, most wealthy professionals and "corporate types" have left that fold with impunity (Democrats routinely carry affluent suburbs). Have people with MBAs fled towards Marx, or are they fleeing a party that has somewhat abandoned them?
And more importantly, what does social conservatism do to boost wealth in a capitalist system? Managing and developing smart people in a fortune-500 company is very different from being a taxidermist in the Deep South, and only one of these pursuits generates a lot of efficiently-created wealth. If your job is at all threatened by an undocumented worker, you should have studied harder in high school.
Being fixated on gays and illegal immigrants is not well received by the business community for a reason - it is a fixation of intolerant, under-educated and economically low-contributing members of society that don't add value for corporations. How you sell hammers in rural Texas is your own matter - world-class corporations embrace free markets and socially diverse societies. Conservativism no longer gets this (but it does understand the "rapture" and "intelligent design").
While I agree on you starting point and a few other things, but on others not so much.
I am college educated and work in a professional environment. My household income is in the top 5% of the country.
However, I come from a working class blue collar background. My response to your comments on blue collar people being undercut by illegal immigration that is tacitly endorsed by the government, is...well, it wouldn't show up here if I typed it. Your mentality is exactly the MBA driven one that is supported by both parties in their actual POLICY making. They may humor working/middle class people with their rhetoric, but in the meantime, they are destroying the working class with illegal immigration and the middle class with H1b's. This isn't good for anyone except the ultra elites..it's bad for the vast majority of citizens and bad for the country's long term health.
Pure nonsense. Open borders, mass immigration from low IQ nations and globalism is about collapsing the middle class. Diversity and multiculturalism and PC is about promoting division of the populace and collapsing freedom and liberty and propagating mass immigration.
You are right. It is all out to get you, make your grandkids less white, take away your "liberty" and "collapse the middle class".
You know there exists a lot of people, who were born with much higher IQs than you, who make more money than you, who have consistently at a 90%+ consensus found that mass immigration is economically accretive to America, right (crickets while you look up "accretive")? They might have gone to schools where the boss of your boss of your boss of your boss of your boss of your boss went, but that is only an endorsement.
No matter how it goes down, I think we can be pretty sure that your monthly bills will be paid this way, not vice versa, and you will drift further into lower middle class status - illegal immigrants or not.
though I do not agree with Bernie on Several Issues he would Supress Corporate influence in Government.
This is where the far left like Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinich, the people like Rand Paul and Sarah Palin can all find themselves in agreement. All the others, seem to be useful idiots when it comes to politicians convincing them that it's fine and dandy to allow them to continue looting the US Treasury to buy votes, and reward the friends and political and corporate cronies.
We are well over $18 trillion in debt, with about $150 trillion in unfunded liabilities, and I have to debate these useful idiots over federal spending, as politicians loot the treasury and heap mountains of debt on our children. Meanwhile, every other politician comes up with a new compassionate sounding, Utopian sounding "wouldn't it be wonderful if" taxpayer funded spending scheme, to add even more debt.
You are right. It is all out to get you, make your grandkids less white, take away your "liberty" and "collapse the middle class".
Yes now you are getting it.
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You know there exists a lot of people, who were born with much higher IQs than
you, who make more money than you, who have consistently at a 90%+ consensus
found that mass immigration is economically accretive to America, right
(crickets while you look up "accretive")? They might have gone to schools where
the boss of your boss of your boss of your boss of your boss of your boss went,
but that is only an endorsement.
Ad hominen, appeal to authority, self-serving etc.
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No matter how it goes down, I think we can be pretty sure that your monthly bills will be paid this way, not vice versa, and you will drift further into lower middle class status - illegal immigrants or not.
So what are you, so upper class to be immune to the economics of mass immigration and globalism? I'm against mass immigration including legal.
You know Americans were doing just fine economically and quality of living before the immigration, multiculturalism and globalization policies began in the mid 60's onward.
You can be dismissive as you want, it doesn't change the facts big business and government are both on board the PC, mass immigration, open borders, globalist and diversity/multiculturalism crazy train. And America is becoming more like Brazil and worse by the day.
You can be dismissive as you want, it doesn't change the facts big business and government are both on board the PC, mass immigration, open borders, globalist and diversity/multiculturalism crazy train. And America is becoming more like Brazil and worse by the day.
And I asked you to provide an example......
I invest in corporations of all kinds.
Can't think of too many on the "PC, mass immigration, open borders, globalist and diversity/multiculturalism crazy train."
You want examples of the sky is blue and the grass green. The examples are peppered on this forum and in the news.
How many corporations moved to blacklist Trump for saying illegal aliens are bringing crime? How many corporations banned and censored anything and everything with a confederate flag? There's two examples.
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