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Old 08-04-2015, 09:04 PM
 
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So what happens if you have some kind of serious and expensive medical problem that you can't pay for out of pocket? Do you plan on becoming a leech yourself?
I am a trust fund baby. It isn't a problem and I can always sell my PA-31T.
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Old 08-04-2015, 09:06 PM
 
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The unconstitutional fine and my high income prevent me from doing this common sense thing.

I envy you. I may as well as light my (grossly inflated) premiums on fire for what I get out of it.
I zeroed out my fine/tax with my tax credits.
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Old 08-04-2015, 09:06 PM
 
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I zeroed out my fine/tax with my tax credits.
I get a bill, never credits.
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Old 08-04-2015, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Houston
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They've always had alternatives: Tort reform, insurance company competition across state lines, health care savings accounts.

You might not like those alternatives, but you can't rightly say that they haven't had them.

And why didn't The One (Obama) push for letting Americans buy prescription drugs from overseas where they are much cheaper?

Let's face it: Obamacare was for the insurance and drug companies, not the American people.

It has done little if anything to lower costs, which were the main problem with health care in this country.
Oh god this is funny. It seems like the above is all the repubs can come up with. They know this will do absolutely NOTHING to give everyone access to healthcare. It's all smoke and mirrors mixed with some fancy verbiage to fool the low information voters. We've had tort reform here in Texas for quite some time now. You think healthcare costs have gone down here? Well, they haven't. In fact they've gone up just like everywhere else.
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Old 08-04-2015, 09:07 PM
 
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Come back and brag after you are in an accident or become seriously ill and are faced with medical bills of several hundreds of thousands of dollars.
See above.
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Old 08-04-2015, 09:07 PM
 
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I had better come up with a better plan? Geez I never realized I was so important that I would be tasked with that, but I think my idea is far better, it's just that until now no one asked me about it:

Expand medicaid for the poor, and in the meantime drop the eligibility age for medicare 5 years at a time over a period of maybe 15 years until everyone is covered by it. Services you want above and beyond medicare you buy a plan with your own money that will cover those things.
How does this lower costs?

There is no incentive for anyone to control them since "someone else" is paying everyone's medical costs under your plan.
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Old 08-04-2015, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I am a trust fund baby. It isn't a problem and I can always sell my PA-31T.
Not everyone is a "trust fund baby". You know that right?
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Old 08-04-2015, 09:10 PM
 
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I get a bill, never credits.
Do some energy efficient upgrades to your house. That always generates credits.
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Old 08-04-2015, 09:11 PM
 
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its impossible to pay less for more coverage, especially given now were are picking up the taxpayer tab for millions more individuals.

IMPOSSIBLE.. Do you understand that?
It is possible via new money creation. The cost of future HC will be enormous and that will simply require more money. Just considering Medicare, typical beneficiaries receive on the order of 2-3X in benefits compared to what they put in. IMO taxes will not go up enough to cover that deficit.
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Old 08-04-2015, 09:11 PM
 
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Not everyone is a "trust fund baby". You know that right?
So?
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