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There is NOTHING in ACA to make it "cost less" other than subsidies, and even they arent making it cost less, they are making it cost more since those costs need to be passed onto others... they are just posting a previously available plan that YOU DIDNT KNOW ABOUT..
Once again, my sole argument is that good plans are available through the ACA, and that physicians accept these good plans.
What you've just posted doesn't address my argument in any way.
The costs of any assistance to the poor is passed on to everyone else, that's sort of how societies function. I don't drive on every freeway in California, but in one way or another I pay for all of them.
Maybe what we really disagree on here is that I don't think it's ok to trip over dying people on the sidewalk and keep on going. I think everyone has a right to healthcare and should pay what they are reasonably able to.
So if you admit the cost is being passed onto everyone else, then question
HOW THE FK COULD YOU BELIEVE THE PREMIUMS WERE GOING TO FALL $2500?
ACA was NOT supposed to drive up the Medicaid numbers, they PROMISED the premiums would fall because MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE BUYING POLICIES...
You know thats the truth.. but dont care, cause you GOT YOURS..
Once again, my sole argument is that good plans are available through the ACA, and that physicians accept these good plans.
What you've just posted doesn't address my argument in any way.
Of course policies are available through the ACA website and that they accept them, but they are THE SAME DAM PLANS PREVIOUSLY AVAILABLE..
I dont think ANYONE said plans werent available or that no one takes every single plan.. the discussion about not taking plans are something we're seeing with governmental policies, like medicaid
Where was the Republican alternative? They sat on their hands and screamed about Obama care but had no ideas of their own. Republicans have been bashing this man since he took office. Where are the Republicans ideas? Crickets.....
Once again, my sole argument is that good plans are available through the ACA, and that physicians accept these good plans.
What you've just posted doesn't address my argument in any way.
One problem that we keep on hearing regarding some of the exchange plans is that many doctor's won't accept them because they tend to have a lower reimbursement rate. I have no idea about your particular plan but this has been the case for many people with plans purchased on the exchange.
Prior to obamcare I could buy a plan for our family for half the amount in premiums that I could buy on the exchange today. Even with subsidies I'd be paying a lot more.
Of course policies are available through the ACA website and that they accept them, but they are THE SAME DAM PLANS PREVIOUSLY AVAILABLE..
I dont think ANYONE said plans werent available or that no one takes every single plan.. the discussion about not taking plans are something we're seeing with governmental policies, like medicaid
Once again, my argument is that good plans are available through the ACA websites.
Nothing in my argument depends on the previous availability of these good plans. Many posters have suggested that none of the plans offered on ACA websites are any good, and that doctors are somehow turning down patients who have obtained plans through the ACA websites, regardless if the plan is a good one or not. My argument rebuts these suggestions.
One problem that we keep on hearing regarding some of the exchange plans is that many doctor's won't accept them because they tend to have a lower reimbursement rate. I have no idea about your particular plan but this has been the case for many people with plans purchased on the exchange.
Prior to obamcare I could buy a plan for our family for half the amount in premiums that I could buy on the exchange today. Even with subsidies I'd be paying a lot more.
My experience is that the plan I obtained through the ACA website is more comprehensive, with a lower deductible and lower co-pays, for a lower premium than the plan I had before. If a pollster asked me if I was happy with my plan, I'd probably say I wasn't. Even though the plan costs less, I still pay too much for insurance, way too much, and since I have no health issues, I know that I'm subsidizing others' healthcare. The simple fact is that I am dissatisfied with a for-profit healthcare/insurance industry, and I'm very concerned that Americans don't realize that our high healthcare costs are so high because we are subsidizing the rest of the world's healthcare. The reason a CAT scan can be so inexpensive in India is because the providers make up the costs differences by charging much more in the United States.
My experience is that the plan I obtained through the ACA website is more comprehensive, with a lower deductible and lower co-pays, for a lower premium than the plan I had before. If a pollster asked me if I was happy with my plan, I'd probably say I wasn't. Even though the plan costs less, I still pay too much for insurance, way too much, and since I have no health issues, I know that I'm subsidizing others' healthcare.
Have you had any trouble with finding doctors and/or specialist who take your plan?
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The simple fact is that I am dissatisfied with a for-profit healthcare/insurance industry, and I'm very concerned that Americans don't realize that our high healthcare costs are so high because we are subsidizing the rest of the world's healthcare. The reason a CAT scan can be so inexpensive in India is because the providers make up the costs differences by charging much more in the United States.
I've never heard this before. Do you have a source for this?
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