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Old 08-16-2015, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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We recently saw gay marriage ruled a constitutional right. We now see some politicians on the local level denying not just homosexuals the right to marry but also deny heterosexuals the right to marry. My question is, if your job is to give out marriage licenses issued by the government, can you cite first amendment right to practice religion as a reason to not give out any?


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Old 08-16-2015, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No, they are not allowed to deny a legal right. They are however allowed to look for a new job after being fired from the one they cannot preform at.
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Old 08-16-2015, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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This shouldn't even be a debate. They have a job to do. If they're unwilling to do said job because of some religious preferences... then they're free to go get a different job.

But as usual, christians are demanding special treatment.
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Old 08-16-2015, 05:00 PM
 
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I suspect, that the 14th Amendment due process clause would trump any 1st Amendment rights of either a local or state government and its employees. I think that these "public servants" have taken the wrong cue from the Supreme Court's decision in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby.
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Old 08-16-2015, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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They have the same options under the "reasonable accommodations" requirement of the EEO and ADA act as anyone else.
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Old 08-16-2015, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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They have the same options under the "reasonable accommodations" requirement of the EEO and ADA act as anyone else.
Meaning what? The problem is the duty of the job is to give marriage licenses out to heterosexual and homosexual couples wishing to marry for the public sector, in particular a publicly held office like county clerk. It's another story altogether if this was the private sector where a LOT of people say that closely held religious views can and should effect whom they serve. I for one, personally disagree with that belief.
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Old 08-16-2015, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Sale Creek, TN
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No, they shouldn't. Sanctuary cities shouldn't exist either.
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Old 08-16-2015, 07:28 PM
 
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They have the same options under the "reasonable accommodations" requirement of the EEO and ADA act as anyone else.
So you're admitting being a fundamentalist is a disability?
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Old 08-16-2015, 07:34 PM
 
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No.
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Old 08-16-2015, 09:31 PM
 
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They all need to be sued individually and their govt agencies.

Should paramedics be allowed to choose who they treat or not? Should only rich white christians be allowed transportation to the hospital? What about the black transsexual hooker who gets hit by a car - should medical providers be allowed to deny her care? What about police - should police be allowed to decide which calls they respond to?
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