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The only thing I'm upset about is how easily led people are.
I'm not ranting about SNAP at all.
The only reason I came into this thread was to inform you all that you were all debating the wrong issue and to point out how easily it is for the MSM to skew a story.
Moral of the story: Read but VERIFY.
And that I what I did after reading the article.
The single folks though..20 hour a week work requirement is their only way to get SNAP.
And that is what got waived.
Actually again...those represent about a million folks, whose average food stamps are 180-200 dollars. IE a rounding error in the SNAP program.
And thats not exactly what got waived, theres SEVERAL things that got waived-that one being probably the most vital. And as has been pointed out it gets waived in areas with high unemployment primarily. Its common sense.
So again...whats wrong with this? Why is this even being discussed? OMG this took a whole $2 of the average workers taxes this year. Oh the horror!
This is a perfect example of how people:
Tarnish a entire group out of a tiny portion of that group
Spout facts without any idea of the scope or what they are discussing
Make mountains out of molehills.
SNAP is a TINY portion of the budget, and the waivers we are talking about are a TINY portion of that budget. So small its barely worth mentioning. But look at you. you latch onto it, and start screaming about how misled people are by the MSM!
Being poor is pretty great here in America, you get about 55k worth of benefits before working makes more sense.
Anyone who actually wants to work can find work, sure the job will suck, that is why they call it work instead of fun. But if you work hard for awhile doing a crappy job you can then find a better job that is slightly less crappy that pays better and then you do that for awhile and you keep moving up until you make enough money to support yourself. If you have a half a brain and choose to do the above while waiting till you are older than 21 to get married and have kids and graduate high school you are just about garuanteed to have a decent life in this country.
Yes because the will to work will just open a job up and make the company hire you thats all it takes. Sure some people can move up but there is not enough higher jobs for everyone to move up to someone has to work these lower wage jobs.
One of the reason for the waivers is that many of those on food stamps are single women with children. They can't do mandatory work for the same reason they can't get a regular job, they can't afford child care.
And for those who think they could use Head Start, there are waiting lists, they charge at least $60 per week and are closed about 25 weekdays per year.
Wait, I thought the left believed that all people are equal and all should be treated the same.
NOW you want single mother's to have a different treatment then everyone else.
Yes because the will to work will just open a job up and make the company hire you thats all it takes. Sure some people can move up but there is not enough higher jobs for everyone to move up to someone has to work these lower wage jobs.
If you don't suck you will have a chance at a higher level job. You might not get the first one that comes along. But you will get one.
Employers are dying for responsible workers, especially at the lower levels with high turnover and low skill.
Know how I can tell you've never been that poor? Cause you seem to think its awesome.
PS-A significant portion of them DO in fact work, AND theres a 5 yr limit on getting cash assistance.....so by the time you qualify for housing, you've lost the other form of cash assistance. IE its very very rare that people can get both these days. The ones that do are holdovers who got housing before the lifetime welfare limit went into effect.
Aren't you the one who advocates a 90% income tax?
Why don't YOU take them into YOUR house and feed and take care of them if you sure as concerned as you make out to be.
It is ALWAYS EASY for a leftie to spend other peoples money.
Because the economy is NOT great in spite of the rah-rah cheerleading done by the MSM.
Good point.
The Establishment survey reported that 215K jobs were added in July. Sounds good until we look at WHO is getting the jobs...
Quote:
"...211,000 of the total, came in the [age] 55 and over job category. Workers 16-24 lost a total of 8,000 jobs. And the worst hit were, who else, those in their prime, as the number of workers aged 25-54 dropped by another 131K."
You really think that people like being poor? In Missouri, a family of 3 can have no more than a net income of $334. a month to be eligible for food stamps. And look at the restrictions on what they can buy. In Kansas, they can't buy potatoes. What sense does that make? Potatoes can be fixed in many ways and will stretch the food dollars.
[quote=Spartacus713;40716620]So, according to the government and the mass-media, the economy is great and unemployment statistics indicate we are approaching full employment.
And yet, the Obama regime continues to push the expansion of the food stamp program, encouraging that there be no work requirements. So, which is it? Or are Obama and the Democrats trying to encourage a dependency culture where people need the handouts that government gives in order to survive?[/QUOTE]
There are 31 republican governors. What are they doing about this for there own state.
So, according to the government and the mass-media, the economy is great and unemployment statistics indicate we are approaching full employment.
And yet, the Obama regime continues to push the expansion of the food stamp program, encouraging that there be no work requirements. So, which is it? Or are Obama and the Democrats trying to encourage a dependency culture where people need the handouts that government gives in order to survive?
There are 31 republican governors. What are they doing about this for there own state.
The USDA decides what states can implement the waivers. It's based on unemployment numbers.
Governors cannot create jobs.
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